The Brexit Thread

[DCI Harry Batt]

The Guardian is clickbait wank.

[Sporting]

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1112101913150062592

[Fussbudget]

The Guardian do another of their anthropological studies of Brexit heartlands, with Richmond appearing to be rabid for No Deal.

Wow, posh North Yorkshire market town that has been a Tory safe seat for over a hundred years in being full of insufferable right-wing pricks shock. Best place to live, my arse.

[Diable Rouge]

https://twitter.com/MoS_Politics/status/1112101913150062592

The former poll would give Labour a working majority:

Lab 324
Con 241
SNP 45
NI 18
Lib Dem 17
Plaid Cymru 4
Green 1

TIG model has also been refined (assumption presumably of Lib Dem pact):

Lab 276
Con 272
SNP 47
Lib Dem 18
NI 18
CHUK 13
Plaid 4
Green 1

[Nefertiti2]

[URL]https://twitter.com/bbchelenalee/status/1112109243522605057?s=21[/URL]

[Lang Spoon]

Well that gives most Scotch seats outside of NE fish fuckers or Weegie posh suburbs/NE Fife to the Nats. 1 or 2 slab seats at most to fucking SLab bastards, plus Ian Murray, 1-2 Lib dem, rest Tory cunts.

[Moonlight Shadow]

If there is such a shift from Tories to 'Chuk', maybe, just maybe it might mean a lack of appetite for the kind of nihilistic Brexit the Tories seem to aim for...rather than an appetite for having an ultra Brexiter in charge....

[Nefertiti2]

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[URL]https://twitter.com/gabriel_pogrund/status/1112011627312934913?s=21[/URL]


there are a lot of different electorates here. The Conservative Party members who are far to the right. The people who (have ) vote(d) Tory who are (some of them ) closer to Change U.K. they voted for the Party of business

[Diable Rouge]

http://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1112117322087567361

http://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1112116959599099904

http://twitter.com/britainelects/status/1112116730963341315

[Satchmo Distel]

You'd have to say that 38% of the electorate is delusional if it still thinks No Deal is desirable; but May is pandering to those people.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

You'd have to say that 38% of the electorate is delusional if it still thinks No Deal is desirable; but May is pandering to those people.

It's not just the 38% she is pandering to - a letter has reportedly gone to her signed by more than half of the parliamentary party (170 signatories so far) urging no deal, and no general election.

The Sunday Times has gone breathless on the constitutional implications, speculating that 1) the Queen will be asked to deny royal assent for any soft Brexit legislation and 2) to get a GE May would have to call a confidence vote, and vote no confidence in herself.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

*sorry the latter was the Observer, I'm getting tomorrow's front pages mixed up

[Lang Spoon]

There is barely any philosophical or practicable difference between the front pages of the Murdoch Sunday Times or the craven bastards who edit the Observer cover these days.

[Lang Spoon]

My outside hope of a Connolly/Madman Pearse style escapade in Glasgow is looking more likely by the minute. Ourselves alone. Apart from them over there.

[Satchmo Distel]

It's not just the 38% she is pandering to - a letter has reportedly gone to her signed by more than half of the parliamentary party (170 signatories so far) urging no deal, and no general election.

The Sunday Times has gone breathless on the constitutional implications, speculating that 1) the Queen will be asked to deny royal assent for any soft Brexit legislation and 2) to get a GE May would have to call a confidence vote, and vote no confidence in herself.

I don't think she would want a GE given the most recent polling numbers. Maybe she could try to get No Deal via a 2nd referendum in which it was on the ballot?

[Snake Plissken]

Which would require a long extension and European elections which she will not countenance.

[Satchmo Distel]

I agree. I think her preference is to run down the clock to April 12th by pretending that her WA is still alive.

[DCI Harry Batt]

a letter has reportedly gone to her signed by more than half of the parliamentary party (170 signatories so far) urging no deal, and no general election.

The Guardian is reporting this as 100 signatures, which is a different kettle of ball games.

[Nefertiti2]

This could be on the White Supremacy thread

https://twitter.com/peterjukes/status/1112439028815667200

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

News report spotted by some ex-OTFer friends today:

'Hopes that Labour might support the common market 2.0 plan faded on Sunday after Emily Thornberry, the shadow foreign secretary, said it was Labour’s policy to be close to the single market, but not in it. “Our reservation about being in the single market is that we would have to accept things as they currently are in relation to immigration,” she said. “We can’t pretend that the referendum, part of the debate, wasn’t about immigration.”'

Just to be clear, we Lib Dems are totally opposed to that kind of pandering to xenophobia that Corbyn's Labour front bench is evidently unable to resist. We will argue strongly for membership of the single market, and the benefits, to Britain and its people as well as our European friends, of FoM.

[San Bernardhinault]

The Lib Dems are useless fuckers, of course, but they're right about this. There's literally no reason for Labour to play the triangulating racist "it's about immigration" card. Wankers. Basically, at least 48% of the electorate were fine with free movement. You only need 4% of Brexiters to have voted for a Switzerland/Norway outcome for there to be a majority against this race-baiting cockrot. Yet, for reasons that seem unfathomable to me, Corbyn and his front bench seem unable to let go of this unpleasant bit of Blairite mentality.

[hobbes]

The Lib Dems are useless fuckers, of course, but they're right about this.

Even a stopped clock...

[steveeeeeeeee]

How can you want a customs union but be anti-backstop? Surely a back-stop is a temporary customs union rather than a permanent one? A customs union is like being in the EU, but with no vote. What moron would think that's better than May's deal? Ken Clarke and the Labour Party, clearly.

The hole we're in needs to be dug deeper, it seems. Revoke article 50 or take May's deal, surely anyone can see they're the only realistic options, but I guess MPs can't admit that because they're supporting ideas they don't believe in anyway.

[Nocturnal Submission]

I'm not sure that I'm strong enough for another week of this.