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    Group A

    Milan v Liverpool 1
    Derby v USSR x
    Derby v Liverpool 2
    Milan v USSR 1
    Milan v Derby 1
    Liverpool v USSR 1

    Group E
    Barcelona v Real 2
    Everton v Napoli 1
    Everton v Real 2
    Barcelona v Napoli 1
    Barcelona v Everton X
    Real v Napoli 1

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      Group A
      Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 1
      Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 X

      Derby County v Liverpool 2
      Milan v USSR 1

      Milan v Derby County 1
      Liverpool v USSR 1

      Group E
      Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 1
      Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 1

      Everton v Real Madrid 2
      Barcelona v Napoli 1

      Barcelona v Everton 1
      Real Madrid v Napoli 1

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        Magnificent effort Sean, thanks.

        Group A
        X Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20
        1 Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88

        2 Derby County v Liverpool
        1 Milan v USSR

        1 Milan v Derby County
        1 Liverpool v USSR

        Group E
        1 Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60
        1 Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18

        2 Everton v Real Madrid
        1 Barcelona v Napoli

        1 Barcelona v Everton
        1 Real Madrid v Napoli

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          Group A
          Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 - 1
          Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 - X

          Derby County v Liverpool - 2
          Milan v USSR - 1

          Milan v Derby County - 1
          Liverpool v USSR - 1

          Group E
          Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 - X
          Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 - 1

          Everton v Real Madrid - 2
          Barcelona v Napoli - 1

          Barcelona v Everton - 1
          Real Madrid v Napoli - 1

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            Group A
            Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 - x
            Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 - x

            Derby County v Liverpool - 2
            Milan v USSR - 1

            Milan v Derby County - 1
            Liverpool v USSR - 1

            Group E
            Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 - 2
            Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 - 1

            Everton v Real Madrid - 2
            Barcelona v Napoli - 1

            Barcelona v Everton - 1
            Real Madrid v Napoli - 1

            thanks Sean. amazing work.

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              1960 European cup final at hamden.

              real Madrid 7 eintracht Frankfurt 3.

              (di Stefano 3, puskas 4)

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                Can't seem to link to the footage. hopefully this is it.

                https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=1H_89ue5s20

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                  Originally posted by Flynnie View Post

                  Celtic 1967-1970 should have been accepted as an entry instead.
                  Agreed. Cracking team. Don’t know the exact figure, but astonishingly, they were all born within something like 10 miles from Glasgow.

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                    Originally posted by Sean of the Shed View Post

                    Well spotted. Now amended.
                    The Italian mafia are demanding that Napoli play more games than anyone else. Get it sorted or else.

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                      Group A
                      Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 - 1
                      Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 - 2

                      Derby County v Liverpool - 2
                      Milan v USSR - 1

                      Milan v Derby County - 1
                      Liverpool v USSR - 1

                      Group E
                      Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 - 2
                      Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 - 1

                      Everton v Real Madrid - 2
                      Barcelona v Napoli - 1

                      Barcelona v Everton - 1
                      Real Madrid v Napoli - 1

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                        Group A
                        Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 - 2
                        Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 - X

                        Derby County v Liverpool - 2
                        Milan v USSR - 2

                        Milan v Derby County - X
                        Liverpool v USSR - 2

                        Group E
                        Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 - 1
                        Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 - X

                        Everton v Real Madrid - 2
                        Barcelona v Napoli - 1

                        Barcelona v Everton - 1
                        Real Madrid v Napoli - 1

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                          x Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20
                          x Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88
                          x Derby County v Liverpool
                          x Milan v USSR
                          1 Milan v Derby County
                          1 Liverpool v USSR


                          Group E
                          x Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60
                          1 Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18
                          2 Everton v Real Madrid
                          1 Barcelona v Napoli
                          1 Barcelona v Everton
                          1 Real Madrid v Napoli

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                            Group E

                            Noughties Barcelona v Fifties Real Madrid is a classic, may end up being repeated in the final. Barcelona, however, have the slight edge in this first meeting, as they simply keep the ball away from Puskas and Di Stefano long enough to stifle their threat, while finding holes in their defence. 3-1 Barca.

                            Eighties Everton against modern Napoli - a comfortable enough home win but Everton may struggle without Andy Gray, sent off in the tenth minute for elbowing the keeper.

                            Barcelona and Real Madrid win both their next games, meaning the group finishes 9-6-3-0.

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                              Milan 86-90 v Liverpool 18-20 is also a potential final or semi-final, and I wouldn't rule out semis against the two Group E sides if the draw permits.

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                                Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                Milan 86-90 v Liverpool 18-20 is also a potential final or semi-final, and I wouldn't rule out semis against the two Group E sides if the draw permits.
                                I think you're overrating Liverpool. This year, for example, they only qualified for the KO stages in their last group match and we know what happened next. They've been great domestically, yes, but given a big hand by the deficiencies of their supposed rivals. As for a match-up with Milan, well that team could defend as well as attack. But I'm getting ahead of the game.

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                                  Yes, I overstated the case a bit there. They might not even be the best ever Liverpool side (e.g. imagine Dalglish and Rush v Liverpool 2019-2020's defence).

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                                    milan v liverpool - 1
                                    derby v ussr -1
                                    derby v liverpool -1
                                    milan v ussr - 1
                                    milan v derby - 1
                                    liverpool v ussr - 1

                                    barca v madrid - 1
                                    everton v napoli - 1
                                    everton v madrid - 2
                                    barca v napoli 1
                                    barca v everton 1
                                    madrid v naopli 1

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                                      Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post

                                      What are the group tiebreakers if groups end up with three teams on two wins each, or four teams all with one win, one draw and one loss?
                                      Good point.
                                      Group game votes will be scored 3 points for a win, 1 for a draw. If teams are level after that then head to head will count. If still level then most points against the higher of the two remaining team wins. If it is still level after that I will withdraw my vote and if STILL level after that then I will keep withdrawing the most recent votes until we have a winner.
                                      For the knockout games we will only vote for winners so if scores are level then my vote will be withdrawn.
                                      Last edited by Sean of the Shed; 26-03-2020, 12:05.

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                                        Group A
                                        Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 x
                                        Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 1

                                        Derby County v Liverpool 2
                                        Milan v USSR 1

                                        Milan v Derby County 1
                                        Liverpool v USSR 1

                                        Group E
                                        Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 2
                                        Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 1

                                        Everton v Real Madrid 2
                                        Barcelona v Napoli 1

                                        Barcelona v Everton x
                                        Real Madrid v Napoli 1

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                                          Group A
                                          Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 1
                                          Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 x

                                          Derby County v Liverpool 1
                                          Milan v USSR 1

                                          Milan v Derby County 1
                                          Liverpool v USSR 1

                                          Group E
                                          Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 2
                                          Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 1

                                          Everton v Real Madrid 2
                                          Barcelona v Napoli 1

                                          Barcelona v Everton x
                                          Real Madrid v Napoli 1

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                                            Voting closes at 6pm.

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                                              Originally posted by Sean of the Shed View Post
                                              So here is the draw:

                                              Group G
                                              Manchester United 98-99*
                                              France 1998-2000*
                                              West Germany 1972
                                              Dynamo Kyiv 97-99
                                              Rough draw for my nomination, being put in the same group as the team that beat the team that beat Kyiv in one of their CL runs, and the World Cup & European Champs winner of the same era. Ouch.

                                              Should have gone for the Bergkamp/Henry-era Arsenal instead.

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                                                Group A
                                                Milan 86-90** v Liverpool 18-20 1
                                                Derby County 71-75 v USSR 86-88 X

                                                Derby County v Liverpool 2
                                                Milan v USSR 1

                                                Milan v Derby County 1
                                                Liverpool v USSR X

                                                Group E
                                                Barcelona 08-09* v Real Madrid 55-60 2
                                                Everton 84-85* v Napoli 15-18 X

                                                Everton v Real Madrid 2
                                                Barcelona v Napoli 1

                                                Barcelona v Everton 1
                                                Real Madrid v Napoli 1

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                                                  Group A - Final table

                                                  Milan 86-90** - 149pts
                                                  Liverpool 18-20 - 103pts
                                                  USSR 86-88 - 38pts
                                                  Derby County 71-75 - 30pts

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                                                    Group E - Final table

                                                    Real Madrid 55-60 - 121pts
                                                    Barcelona 08-09* - 117pt
                                                    Everton 84-85* - 54pts
                                                    Napoli 15-18 - 1pt

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