The OTF Champion of Champions League

[Sean of the Shed]

The next two groups for your perusal, vote with 1, 2 or X

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

Nigeria v Dundee United
Nottingham Forest v Romania

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
Romania v Dundee United


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
Manchester United v France

France v West Germany
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Incandenza]

Can anyone point me to something showing/discussing Dundee?

[Sporting]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 1 (a slightly grittier team wins; scoreline something like 2-0)
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 1 (maybe a slight surprise but Romanians don't travel well)

Nigeria v Dundee United 1 (Scots can't take the African heat)
Nottingham Forest v Romania 1 (ground out victory)

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria X ( a draw fine for both sides)
Romania v Dundee United 1 (nothing to play for)



Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 2 (Müller. Heynkes, Netzer...no contest)
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 1 (Dynamo don't travell well)

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv 1
Manchester United v France 2 (France have too much class)

France v West Germany 2 (last gasp goal settles a 2-3 thriller)
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv 1 (not much to play for)

[ursus arctos]

It wouldn't help you, as they are another club entirely.

As for Dundee United, the basics are here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...%E2%80%931993)

[ursus arctos]

We are assuming that no bent referees are involved, correct?

I realise I should have asked that about Derby

[elguapo4]

Group C

Forest v Dundee United 1
Nigeria v Romania x

Nigeria v Dundee United 1
Forest v Romania 1

Forest v Nigeria x
Romania v Dundee United x

Group D

Manchester United v West Germany x
France v Kiev 1

West Germany v Kiev 1
Manchester United v France x

France v West Germany 2
Manchester United v Kiev 1

I've just realised that I've knocked out the team I proposed in the first place.,but that is a group of death.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 : 1-0 to the hosts. John Robertson cuts in from the wing to score the only goal, apologizes to the away fans.

Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 : a thrilling 2-2 draw.

Nigeria v Dundee United : no contest, unfortunately. Nigeria run riot and win 3-0.

Nottingham Forest v Romania: Forest, as they were prone to, underestimate their European opponents and seek to get a 0-0 draw, but Hagi scores late with Shilton off his line. 1-0 Romania.

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria : 0-0, as both the Africans and Clough shut up shop and await news from the other group game.

Romania v Dundee United: Romania are sloppy and Dundee United cavalier. A 3-3 draw, with the last three goals all coming in the last four minutes.


Group G

Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972: A straightforward 3-0 win for the Germans, with Netzer seemingly able to waltz through United's midfield at will.

France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 : 5-0 to France.

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv : 2-1 to West Germany, after an early Kyiv goal.

Manchester United v France: Manchester United take an early lead, but France overwhelm them with pace. Two late Emmanuel Petit goals ensure a 3-2 win for the French.

France v West Germany : two tired sides play out a 0-0 draw with nothing to lose at this stage.

Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv : Manchester United relax and play some flowing football in a 3-0 win.

[Simon G]

Group C
1:Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
1: Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

1:Nigeria v Dundee United
1:Nottingham Forest v Romania

X: Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
1: Romania v Dundee United


Group G
1: Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1: France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

X: West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2: Manchester United v France

1: France v West Germany
1: Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Incandenza]

It wouldn't help you, as they are another club entirely.

As for Dundee United, the basics are here:
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Histor...%E2%80%931993)

Guess what hand gesture I'm making.

Thanks for the link.

[Incandenza]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 - 1
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 - X

Nigeria v Dundee United - X
Nottingham Forest v Romania - 2

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria - X
Romania v Dundee United - 1


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 - X
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 - 1

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv - 1
Manchester United v France - X

France v West Germany - 2
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv - 1

[tee rex]

Group C (the Group of Rainbow)

1: Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
2: Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

X: Nigeria v Dundee United (sympathy point for DUFC, over-achievers but never greats)
2: Nottingham Forest v Romania (historical revisionism: Miracles, yes .. but Forest didn't play many top European sides)

1: Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
1: Romania v Dundee United


Group G
2: Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
(really tough one, first I went for a draw cop-out but WG were even better than in 74, so they nick it)

1: France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1: West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2: Manchester United v France

X: France v West Germany
(this one IS the cop-out)
1: Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Arturo]

Can anyone point me to something showing/discussing Dundee?

Try this
https://youtu.be/_BeUMbOka0c

[G-Man]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 -- 1
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 -- 2

Nigeria v Dundee United -- 1
Nottingham Forest v Romania -- 1

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria -- 1
Romania v Dundee United -- 1


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 -- 2
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 -- 1

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv -- 1
Manchester United v France -- 1

France v West Germany -- 2
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv -- 1

[Arturo]

Group C

x Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
x Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

2 Nigeria v Dundee United
x Nottingham Forest v Romania

1 Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
x Romania v Dundee United

Group G

2 Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1 France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1 West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2 Manchester United v France

x France v West Germany
x Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv[/QUOTE]

[3 Colours Red]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 - 1
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 - X

Nigeria v Dundee United - X
Nottingham Forest v Romania - 1

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria - 1
Romania v Dundee United - 1


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 - X
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 - 1

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv - 1
Manchester United v France - X

France v West Germany - 2
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv - 1

[S. aureus]

Group C

1 Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
1 Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

1 Nigeria v Dundee United
1 Nottingham Forest v Romania

x Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
x Romania v Dundee United

Group G

1 Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1 France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1 West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2 Manchester United v France

1 France v West Germany
1 Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Sits]

Group C
1 Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
1 Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

1 Nigeria v Dundee United
1 Nottingham Forest v Romania

1 Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
1 Romania v Dundee United


Group G
2 Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1 France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1 West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2 Manchester United v France

1 France v West Germany
1 Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

I'm afraid I'm not familiar enough either with Dundee Utd or Kyiv

[ursus arctos]

Group C
1 Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
1 Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

1 Nigeria v Dundee United
X Nottingham Forest v Romania

1 Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
X Romania v Dundee United


Group G
2 Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1 France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1 West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
X Manchester United v France

2 France v West Germany
1 Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Sean of the Shed]

You missed Forest v Romania ursus arctos

[ursus arctos]

Corrected

Thanks

[pebblethefish]

Group C
1 Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87
2 Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994

1 Nigeria v Dundee United
X Nottingham Forest v Romania

X Nottingham Forest v Nigeria
1 Romania v Dundee United


Group G
2 Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972
1 France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99

1 West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv
2 Manchester United v France

X France v West Germany
1 Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv

[Sean of the Shed]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 1
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 x

Nigeria v Dundee United 1
Nottingham Forest v Romania 1

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria 1
Romania v Dundee United 1


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 1
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 x

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv x
Manchester United v France x

France v West Germany x
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv 1

[fatbear]

Group C

Forest v Dundee Utd 1
Nigeria v Romania 2
Nigeria v Dundee Utd X
Forest v Romania X

Forest v Nigeria 1
Romania v Dundee Utd 1

Group G

Man utd V Germany 2
France v Kiev 1
Germany v Kiev 1
Man Utd v France 2
France v Germany 2
Man Utd v Kiev 1

[ad hoc]

Group C
Nottingham Forest 77-80* v Dundee United 79-87 1
Nigeria 94-98* v Romania 1994 2

Nigeria v Dundee United 1
Nottingham Forest v Romania 2

Nottingham Forest v Nigeria 1
Romania v Dundee United 1


Group G
Manchester United 98-99* v West Germany 1972 1
France 1998-2000* v Dynamo Kyiv 97-99 1

West Germany v Dynamo Kyiv 2
Manchester United v France 2

France v West Germany 1
Manchester United v Dynamo Kyiv 2

[matt j]

a bit late, and I know nothing about the site or the author, but this summary lines up with my recollection of Kyiv in that era:
https://thesefootballtimes.co/2018/0...he-late-1990s/