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    Originally posted by 3 Colours Red View Post

    Why am I not surprised that a Palace fan's said this? It's fucking awful.

    It’s been roundly criticised by the majority of Brighton fans. And your assessment is spot on. A pity the supply chain issues couldn’t kibosh that.

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      Originally posted by Baptiste View Post
      Tranmere Away. Yes, that's brown trim ladies and gentlemen. Hope someone has told the refereeing department not to wear the green officials top.
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      The main colour is so gorgeous that even the brown looks nice. A great example of a change kit

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        The brown in the trim is far nicer than the main colour, which is really garish.

        Brown can be a fine kit colour, as the York change kit earlier in the thread proved.

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          Finally... and the overwhelming sensation is relief that they haven't fucked up too badly (so far - I mean, if the socks are white then it all goes out the window):



          And not that you can see in the photo very well but there's a dragon shadow pattern on the sleeves and a large Ddraig Goch debossed in the fabric on the back below where the number goes. Really saves it from looking too plain.

          It's the best shirt Macron have given us so far but that's not a particularly difficult hurdle to leap.

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            Oh no, we're going to be in trouble...

            https://twitter.com/AFCWimbledon/status/1551930344546467843?s=20&t=HZheNFNRAfl23CD4xQzJag

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              Er, what the fuck?!

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                Does Merton celebrate April Fool's in July?

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                  I mean, it will have the effect of having the team play in what are pretty much first kit colours even when they (as annoyingly has become the habit) switch to a change kit when there isn't any clash with the home side...so that's good to an extent.

                  Obviously there will now be a contrasting third kit in the event of a clash.

                  But it would be easier to just not automatically wear the change kit for away games.

                  It all seems very silly though...and seemingly not very Wimbledon.
                  Last edited by Ray de Galles; 26-07-2022, 15:26.

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                    We've largely worn our home kit at home and our away kit away for the last 20 years, haven't we? That's certainly what we did in the first few years at Kingsmeadow.

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                      Since the regeneration, Wimbledon have worn their change kit for away games as default regardless of if there's a clash. That's the problem.

                      This new change kit seems to be a way of doing so while still being recognisably Wimbledon. It would have seemed more sensible just to wear the first kit away from home unless there was a clash.

                      It almost seems to be being implied that his is some kind of rebellious move, as if the needless switch to change kits was being forced on the club when in fact it's their choice and they've long been one of the worst offenders.


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                        Just out of interest, why is it a problem?

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                          Because it violates Ray's fiercely held personal beliefs as to what is right and proper.

                          Surely you can relate.

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                            Oh sure, I just wondered if there was something else, or something underpinning it.

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                              Originally posted by TonTon View Post
                              Just out of interest, why is it a problem?
                              You know why it's a problem, a club's colours are an intrinsic part of their identity, culture and heritage.

                              If you voluntarily decide not to wear them as default for around 50% of your games it weakens those factors. Wimbledon wearing two tone green against a team in red simply don't look like Wimbledon.

                              This new kit seems to acknowledge that but it's a reaction to an issue completely of the club's own making. A decision you have stated in the past, or at least implied, that you took partly to wind people up.

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                                Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                Because it violates Ray's fiercely held personal beliefs as to what is right and proper.

                                Surely you can relate.
                                You think wearing change kits as a default for away games is fine?

                                I mean, it's not as if I'm a lone voice on this, though I'll concede I'm a strident one. Most supporters seem to want a club to turn out in it's recognisable colours whenever possible and are against superfluous changes of kit.

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                                  I actually agree with you as to "change" kits, but also come from a tradition of "away" kits that leads to the opposite conclusion.

                                  I also couldn't resist the bait. Soz.

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                                    Adopting Wales Euro 2016 qualifiers kit for the third is clearly an attempt to placate me ;

                                    https://twitter.com/afcwimbledon/status/1551968092581990402?s=21&t=r7mBN3JHDtmFJXed2ZQ3ew
                                    Last edited by Ray de Galles; 26-07-2022, 16:43.

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                                      Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                      I actually agree with you as to "change" kits, but also come from a tradition of "away" kits that leads to the opposite conclusion.

                                      I also couldn't resist the bait. Soz.
                                      This would all be a lot easier if there was an established rule like in US Sports.

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                                        I'm not sure that adopting the NBA's "Statement", "Association", "Icon" and "Classic" would really help matters.

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                                          Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post
                                          Adopting Wales Euro 2016 qualifiers kit for the third is clearly an attempt to placate me ;
                                          Chris Gunter in that, isn't it?

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                                            Originally posted by TonTon View Post

                                            Chris Gunter in that, isn't it?
                                            Been trying to sponsor his kit, specifically if there was going to be a red change/third, since the day he signed but to no avail as apparently previous sponsors have snapped him up.

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                                              Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                              I'm not sure that adopting the NBA's "Statement", "Association", "Icon" and "Classic" would really help matters.
                                              Ray would love some blue and gold camo Dons gear.

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                                                Man, you are living in the Chaotic Evil box these days

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                                                  Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post

                                                  You know why it's a problem, a club's colours are an intrinsic part of their identity, culture and heritage.

                                                  If you voluntarily decide not to wear them as default for around 50% of your games it weakens those factors. Wimbledon wearing two tone green against a team in red simply don't look like Wimbledon.

                                                  This new kit seems to acknowledge that but it's a reaction to an issue completely of the club's own making. A decision you have stated in the past, or at least implied, that you took partly to wind people up.
                                                  Sorry. There's a bit of me that can't help being mischievous. Or doesn't want to, maybe.

                                                  I get that it can be a sore point for sure, for very good reasons. But I think we are very comfortable in our identity. We've had all kinds of coloured shirts over the years. And we've used lots of not-blue a lot. And we're good. No-one thinks we aren't us. No-one thinks we aren't blue and yellow. Although in fact we switched to blue and yellow within my lifetime.

                                                  Personally, I've always called them "home" and "away", and that works nicely in my head. But that's by the by. We'd not have managed in 2002 without using them as home and away as we did. As far as I have ever been able to tell (without doing any in-depth investigation), there are a few people who mind and lots more who don't.

                                                  Today's new blue shirt does seem to have made some twitter fans of other clubs cross. I'll not pretend that makes me sad. I'd not seen the shirt until today, though.

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                                                    Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Post

                                                    Been trying to sponsor his kit, specifically if there was going to be a red change/third, since the day he signed but to no avail as apparently previous sponsors have snapped him up.
                                                    That's a shame. I think sponsors of departing players get first dibs on new ones.

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