It was from some lad on twitter so yeah the veracity of Ireland’s self sufficiency may be doubtful.
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Ireland may produce more than enough calories to feed the population several times over but that doesn't include our desire to eat food out of season, or eat shit that isn't grown here. We are not self sufficient in sun dried tomatoes, or parma ham.
Priti Patel has amazing hair. I strongly suspect that the reason that it is so lush and vibrant is that the roots have been feeding on her brain for several years now. There's something very similar going on with James brokenshire. He was on question time last night, and it occured to me that if he let his hair grow out, I think he would grow a bearskin helmet on his head, like a sentry at buckingham palace.
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https://www.newstatesman.com/politic...trying-woo-dup
Doubtless this is a long game I’m not seeing or evil Sensible journalist distortion.
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There's a great clip from Channel 4 news (I presume last night) interviewing a Norwegian MP about this Norway plus possibility (she describes the UK as an abusive guest who will spike the drinks). She's on here around 3.00 and then again around 5.20 https://www.channel4.com/news/what-d...lo-to-find-out
(ultimately she makes it very plain that she can see only negatives for Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein of letting the UK into EFTA)Last edited by ad hoc; 08-12-2018, 09:27.
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This is where I seriously part ways with Corbyn. I think it's his job (even his duty) to lead and make it very clear that leaving the EU is going to be a massive economic disaster that's going to hit everyone but the working class the hardest. I'm tired of politicians who follow polling and focus groups rather than trying to lead and persuade. It's fucking blairite.
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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostThere's a great clip from Channel 4 news (I presume last night) interviewing a Norwegian MP about this Norway plus possibility (she describes the UK as an abusive guest who will spike the drinks). She's on here around 3.00 and then again around 5.20 https://www.channel4.com/news/what-d...lo-to-find-out
(ultimately she makes it very plain that she can see only negatives for Norway, Iceland, Liechtenstein of letting the UK into EFTA)
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I think it's [Corbyn's] job (even his duty) to lead and make it very clear that leaving the EU is going to be a massive economic disaster that's going to hit everyone but the working class the hardest. I'm tired of politicians who follow polling and focus groups rather than trying to lead and persuade.
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Marina Hyde, brilliant as ever, has the measure of Corbyn's fantasy:
a comment article by Jeremy Corbyn, who has come up with – and do forgive yet more Brexit technicalese – some complete handwavy bollocks of an alternative position, whose own internal contradictions either haven’t been spotted by anyone dutifully pushing it, or are basically not cared about because … because unicorns.
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- Jan 2012
- 3297
- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Originally posted by ad hoc View PostThis is where I seriously part ways with Corbyn. I think it's his job (even his duty) to lead and make it very clear that leaving the EU is going to be a massive economic disaster that's going to hit everyone but the working class the hardest. I'm tired of politicians who follow polling and focus groups rather than trying to lead and persuade. It's fucking blairite.
Marina Hyde has never been brilliant, she just has a nicely smug way with words. Corbyn is saying the same as Starmer - 'because unicorns' is hackneyed, and nonsensical, given that Starmer has met with the EU a few more times than Hyde, and might know a bit more about what's possible than her.
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Labour aren't doing particularly well in council by-elections this last month or so, I notice. There are a few good performances where you look at the previous vote and think it could have been close this time, and that is positive, like they can get votes out where they need them. But it doesn't yet look like the Tories would do much worse than last time in a snap election, and they sure won't muck up the campaign like last time.
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- Jan 2012
- 3297
- Worthing
- The Hammers, until Mark Noble goes.(he's still there, sort of)
- Garibaldi, dipped in tea.
Given that the route to a GE is probably via May being deposed, there's no saying what the Conservative party would run on, or indeed who'll still be left in the party, so it could easily mess up.
It's incredibly hard to second-guess what might happen in even the next week, but Labour's options might well be 1) they can't get a GE, so go for a PV, as per the conference vote, or 2) they get a GE, and win it with a manifesto commitment to renegotiate what they can - whilst recognising that that will be limited - then put that to a vote against Remaining.
I'm very worried about the latter - whilst No Deal is the biggest nightmare of the first order, I'm still sceptical of how it can be 'ignored' in a vote, given the turnout of the last one. And I also don't like referenda. But I think that might be where it's heading.
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Originally posted by johnr View PostGiven that the route to a GE is probably via May being deposed, there's no saying what the Conservative party would run on, or indeed who'll still be left in the party, so it could easily mess up.
It's incredibly hard to second-guess what might happen in even the next week, but Labour's options might well be 1) they can't get a GE, so go for a PV, as per the conference vote, or 2) they get a GE, and win it with a manifesto commitment to renegotiate what they can - whilst recognising that that will be limited - then put that to a vote against Remaining.
I'm very worried about the latter - whilst No Deal is the biggest nightmare of the first order, I'm still sceptical of how it can be 'ignored' in a vote, given the turnout of the last one. And I also don't like referenda. But I think that might be where it's heading.
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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostThis is where I seriously part ways with Corbyn. I think it's his job (even his duty) to lead and make it very clear that leaving the EU is going to be a massive economic disaster that's going to hit everyone but the working class the hardest. I'm tired of politicians who follow polling and focus groups rather than trying to lead and persuade. It's fucking blairite.
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