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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
    If you think Russian had enough leverage to quell Iran, that having Gaza as a prison camp under apparent total surveillance meant you didn't have to worry about any incursions beyond a few rockets, if you were picking pointless fights with and undermining your military and intelligence services, it's easy to see complacency kicking in and the Govt and its state apparatus missing everything.
    Lot's of the battalions from the South of Israel were in the West Bank protecting settlers on pogroms

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      Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
      Another important thread abut what's happening in Gaza this evening

      https://twitter.com/taniahary/status/1711100854114074949?s=20
      this thread is also important

      https://twitter.com/BtSIsrael/status/1710962102679019901?s=20
      Last edited by Nefertiti2; 08-10-2023, 21:30.

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        I find it interesting that the Journal is citing Hamas and Hezbollah sources for the Iran story and that US sources have yet to confirm it.

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          Nef, if you replace the "x" with "Twitter", the links will show up between the tweet tags

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            Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
            Nef, if you replace the "x" with "Twitter", the links will show up between the tweet tags
            thanks- anyone know why would you want your billion dollars of content to no longer show up on other people's websites?

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              Virtually nothing he has done makes economic sense

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                This isn’t our first experience with Israeli wars on Gaza. My son experienced his first in 2021 while still in his mother’s womb. My parents have endured this tragedy since 1967. I have lived through five wars in just two decades. But the idea that we can normalize fear is a fallacy. Each conflict feels like the first, with our hearts trembling from the moment the first airstrike hits until a ceasefire is finally announced.
                Another piece from +972 magazine- this time from Mohammed R. Mhawish in Gaza
                Last edited by Nefertiti2; 08-10-2023, 21:44.

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                  I don’t understand what is in it for Iran or Russia to accelerate the genocide of the Palestinians.

                  It increasingly feels inevitable that that’s how this ends.

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                    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                    I find it interesting that the Journal is citing Hamas and Hezbollah sources for the Iran story and that US sources have yet to confirm it.
                    https://twitter.com/lrozen/status/1711133184396599374?s=20

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                      Personally I don't think Russia is involved in this at all, the attack is showing their weakness and zero leverage over Iran if anything. Iran doesn't give any more of a fuck re Palestinians than any other actor. They are doomed pawns.

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                        Or yeah, Iran isn't involved at all. Who the fuck knows.

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                          https://twitter.com/mehdirhasan/status/1711137690807112057?s=20

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                            and watch this please.

                            https://twitter.com/broseph_stalin/status/1711109763105247592?s=20

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                              250 Israeli youths killed at a rave. Absolutely tragic, and the revenge will be more so.

                              We can only hope that this whole thing might cause the centre in Israel to question how things are working out with turning a blind eye to Likud in exchange for safety. If they fail on the safety front, what else do they have to offer? More likely there'll be closing of ranks though, like with Bush after 9/11.

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                                https://twitter.com/_ZachFoster/status/1711099820469874994?t=8OP8pklFTQXo4tIgBQxuAA&s=09

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                                  https://twitter.com/Campb37345Maree/status/1711169469693743350?t=DFDAqUcORZoByrYw594cgg&s=19

                                  I presume she's from a Hindu background

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                                    Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View Post
                                    I don't see what her ethnicity/religion has to do with this. Either in the tweet or your comment AE.

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                                      ad hoc or Nefertiti2 can you name a good charity to donate to that provides medical support to Palestinians? That seems like the best response any of us can offer.

                                      MSF i guess, or is there a better one?
                                      Last edited by delicatemoth; 09-10-2023, 08:14.

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                                        https://www.map.org.uk/

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                                          I'd say either MSF or Islamic Relief.

                                          (The DEC page is listing Islamic Relief as the one member charity at the moment which has an appeal specific to this current crisis https://www.islamic-relief.org.uk/gi...rael_emergency )

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                                            The International Red Cross has operations in Israel, Gaza and the West Bank.

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                                              Israeli Defence Minister Yoav Gallant: "I have ordered a complete siege on the Gaza Strip. There will be no electricity, no food, no fuel, everything is closed. We are fighting human animals and we act accordingly."​
                                              "Human animals"

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                                                Latest YouGov results.

                                                NOT the crowd my pollster pal works for.

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                                                  Originally posted by ad hoc View Post

                                                  I don't see what her ethnicity/religion has to do with this. Either in the tweet or your comment AE.
                                                  Triggered by the BJP oafs back home.

                                                  Doubtless M*di will be against the Palestinians.

                                                  Though unlikely to admit to?

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                                                    Quelle surprise.

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