Movie/TV clichés

[Patrick Thistle]

OK, well maybe Top Gun was a bad example. I only ever saw it once a long time ago and I don't think I realised it was meant to be a school.

[ursus arctos]

True. But I thought the hardest thing about being a Navy pilot was taking off and landing on a carrier ship.

Yes, but that's basic naval aviator training, not advanced tactics, which is what the school is for

[jwdd27]

Talking of Tom Cruise, I spotted one in an old Law and Order the other day - Ken Barlow's son was desperately thinking about how to prosecute a case, so reached for his baseball bat which he handled as he paced up and down the office, because it helps him think, just as it did for Cruise's character in A Few Good Men.
A baseball and catcher's mitt can also be used by such characters, I'm sure I've seen a football (American) being used as thinking prop too.

[Hot Pepsi]

True. But I thought the hardest thing about being a Navy pilot was taking off and landing on a carrier ship.

[San Bernardhinault]

It makes sense for trainee pilots in dangerous fighter jets full of fuel and weapons to crash them into empty ugly desert (or Burning Man) rather than into one of the world's great metropolises. But it makes it harder for short pilots to seduce civilians.

[Hot Pepsi]

It doesn’t make sense for the Navy to practice in Nevada, really.

[San Bernardhinault]

My experience of Fallon, NV, where the new Top Gun school is, is that it's a pretty depressing town compared to Miramar. The one night I spent there suggested that Tom Cruise would be on his motorbike going past the shitty run-down casino, and stopping for bad Chinese food to woo Kelly McGillis, then going to the county fair drinking very sticky and sweet cocktails and admiring the rusty farm machinery.

[ursus arctos]

They've moved the programme from San Diego to Nevada

And they do use PowerPoint



https://www.slideshare.net/mobile/ro...-command-brief

[Hot Pepsi]

Top Gun is a school. They no doubt have an auditorium-type room for lectures. In fact, I know they do because I saw a documentary on it.

[Lang Spoon]

I dunno, meeting rooms and Govt installations seem like a thing.

[Patrick Thistle]

I can't really imagine they use Powerpoint tbh. A map on the wall with some sticky dots on seems more likely.

The other thing with briefings is why do they always sit in rows like schoolchildren? I think they even sit in rows inn Top Gun. Like there are ever chairs in any government installation just sitting about for people to put into rows for a briefing that lasts 2 minutes max.

[San Bernardhinault]

One thing I don't really understand about the official briefings is that they often have those incredible window-like two way video wall things that they can walk around and manipulate by waving their hands at. I've used powerpoint enough to know that this functionality is not available, and I'm pretty sure that any government agency would have video display equipment that is cheaper and more obsolete than anything I can buy on Amazon.

[tee rex]

Briefings are to inform the audience, who are presumed ignorant. "We'll be going into Cambodia [cue map] across the border from Vietnam ...". It is concerning that these ultra-special ops guys need a high school geography class only minutes before the precisely planned mission.

[Patrick Thistle]

Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.

About the only plus point of Kong: Skull Island is that it had a proper briefing.

Although if there is a briefing it will always be interrupted by a big, dumb soldier who shows off to the rest of his mates that he's going to kill the aliens / shoot lots of bad guys, whatever. That guy always dies.

[Hot Pepsi]

That is an effective way to do it.

Many films actually show the slide presentation. They always feature surveillance photos of the main bad guys. But Bond always already knows about them.

[Tratorello]

Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.

True but, you know, montages and shit. Do a training montage with a voiceover going over the main points, like Ocean's 11 did with the heist plans.

[Hot Pepsi]

Yeah I love this in thrillers and war movies, a team of highly trained operatives will be talked through the intricate details of their nigh on impossible mission just as their helicopter touches down for the assault on the terrorist base...

Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.

[Tratorello]

Oh and something I may have mentioned previously but I'll rant about it again, the whole point of using a helicopter for a pursuit or to attack someone/something is that they are stand off weapons systems, they can hover a distance away and watch or take potshots, they do not have to continuously overfly the target, then do a massive turn and repeat the process over and over again, what you're thinking of there Mr or Mrs Director is planes, that's what planes have to do, helicopters however can stop and turn on a sixpence, that's the whole point of their existence.

[Tratorello]

Let's not have a proper briefing before going on the mission. Why don't we walk around in public discussing the mission? (Been watching the clone wars cartoon and this happens a lot!)

Yeah I love this in thrillers and war movies, a team of highly trained operatives will be talked through the intricate details of their nigh on impossible mission just as their helicopter touches down for the assault on the terrorist base...

[Patrick Thistle]

Let's not have a proper briefing before going on the mission. Why don't we walk around in public discussing the mission? (Been watching the clone wars cartoon and this happens a lot!)

[Hot Pepsi]

God, that was dull.

Heat? Heat is awesome. All time great.

[Lang Spoon]

I was amazed to find that it was a shot for shot remake.

Edit: I was flicking late night and got awfully confused to see a scene from heat but with different actors.

It's a remake? Wow.

[Sits]

Find something in this that’s not a cliche. “Welcome to the big leagues Joe.”:

[Levin]

I was amazed to find that it was a shot for shot remake.

Edit: I was flicking late night and got awfully confused to see a scene from heat but with different actors.

[Lang Spoon]

God, that was dull.