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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostGreat interview with Amira Hass https://jewishcurrents.org/apartheid...sired-reality/
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Mossad is behind the BDS movement claims... the Jerusalem Post
[URL]https://twitter.com/jsternweiner/status/1139158467535618053?s=21[/URL]
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Thank G-d Haaretz Journalists aren’t in the Labour Party.or they’d have been expelled for anti-semitism
[URL]https://twitter.com/jsternweiner/status/1139162004978114560?s=21[/URL]
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Piling on the Jewish Museum in Berlin because they don’t toe the Likud line
[URL]https://twitter.com/jsternweiner/status/1139189675682336769?s=21[/URL]
(and if you’re on Twitter & interested in Israel/Palestine Jamie Stern Weiner is a must-follow)
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The director of the museum has now been forced out.
In other news
https://twitter.com/splinter_news/status/1140409776603566080
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this thread about the Kushner event is worth reading
https://twitter.com/JFXM/status/1144300321889574912
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
Segregation by religion and class is acute but the enforcement is largely economic and informal, de facto not de jure, not hugely different from my home region in Southwest Florida. Political economy makes de jure apartheid unnecessary in most cases for the preservation of Jewish dominance by illiberal democratic means. The treatment of the West Bank is clearly comparable to apartheid South Africa, but the parallel breaks down in cities like Acre (Akko) because Arabs who have the same ethnicity are not treated in the same way as West Bank Arabs.
Regarding Acre, the threat is gentrification if Arabs are priced out of their areas, but not apartheid or fascism
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...affa-1.6110323Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 12-07-2019, 18:38.
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
This is a brilliant article but I would note that it rejects the way that the terms fascism and apartheid state are applied in some of the posts on this thread. Israel passed racist laws in 2009-2013 that permit some forms of discrimination, and it is clearly a colonial occupying power in many areas but the de jure citizenship and freedom of movement that Arabs have in, say, Acre, where I have stayed very recently, is real. When I came through Tel Aviv airport, the man and woman who checked my passport were dark-skinned, presumably of African descent. When we walked out of our hotel in Acre, the neighbours were Arabs. We heard the call to prayer several times.
Segregation by religion and class is acute but the enforcement is largely economic and informal, de facto not de jure, not hugely different from my home region in Southwest Florida. Political economy makes de jure apartheid unnecessary in most cases for the preservation of Jewish dominance by illiberal democratic means. The treatment of the West Bank is clearly comparable to apartheid South Africa, but the parallel breaks down in cities like Acre because Arabs who have the same ethnicity are not treated in the same way as West Bank Arabs.
Please imagine if you had written the same thing if you'd visited South Africa under apartheid.
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Also noone is arguing that the situation for Arab citizens of Israel within Israel is as bad as the situation of black South Africans under apartheid (although there is legally enshrined discrimination). However the situation of Palestinians under Israeli control in the West Bank and Gaza is significantly worse than the situation of black South Africans under apartheid.
Spin it as much as you want and play their divide and rule games but the occupation is apartheid of a type several times worse than that in RSA
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I think my post compares and contrasts them accurately, without in any way minimizing or excusing discrimination and huge economic inequality and de facto housing segregation. There is huge discrimination and residential segregation but not a total denial of citizenship rights like voting, freedom of movement and so on in every city across the whole state.
Gaza is as bad as apartheid, clearly, and imposed more brutally. But applying apartheid to the whole Jew-Arab system of extreme inequality in urban centres misrepresents it.
And again, my analysis concurs with the article linked by Nef. If you can refute it, go ahead.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 12-07-2019, 19:09.
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