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    Originally posted by tee rex View Post
    When hiring security goons for your nasty business (criminal or veneer-respectable) make sure they have no interest in sports, particularly soccer. Watching the game on TV is a guaranteed distraction, leading to death of guards and/or escape of hero.

    In Taken 2 (yeah, sorry) Liam Neeson's plans are greatly assisted by the entire group of baddies watching a game, and because it is Istanbul and to prove they are very uncivilised men who will not be missed, the game is in black and white.

    (Edit: forgot to add ... at a very helpful moment, there will be goalmouth action, and increased audience engagement).
    This turned up again in Snatched (Amy Schumer, Goldie Hawn, missable). South Americans this time.

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      Maybe I mentioned this before, but Deutschland 89 shows its international. Whenever one character suspects another character of being a spy or otherwise undercover for a government agency, they always have to make it a mulitple choice question.

      "Who do you work for? CIA? FBI? BND? KGB? WHAT DO YOU WANT FROM ME!!!"

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        Similarly I may have mentioned this before but a while ago I tortured myself by sitting through 30 minutes of some truly terrible action adventure film in which the very fine actor Willem Dafoe demeaned himself by playing the treacherous vice - prez and without a hint of irony gave a henchman an instruction which ended with the words "make it look like an accident".

        * The film was 'XXX State of the Union'
        Last edited by Tony C; 14-01-2021, 20:19.

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          I'm sure I've mentioned Goons and Henchmen before. I'm not sure it's a "cliche", but it's something that continuously bothers me. If there's some mastermind trying to make money - running a drugs scam or whatever - it's bizarre to me how many goons and henchmen seem to be willing to die for them. They're surely all mercenaries, so at the first sign of serious risk you'd think they'd just fuck off somewhere else rather than charge into the gunfire after seeing all their colleagues shot already.

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            It's a paycheck. (Didn't Austin Powers spoof this a bit? Also Kevin "Diesel" Nash's cameo in John Wick nicely plays with this idea.) I'd insert Randalls speech about "Luke Skywalker: Communist Bastard" as well.

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              Originally posted by tee rex View Post
              In Taken 2 (yeah, sorry) Liam Neeson's plans are greatly assisted by the entire group of baddies watching a game, and because it is Istanbul and to prove they are very uncivilised men who will not be missed, the game is in black and white.
              A goal will then be scored just as the weapons are pulled - the resulting gunfight/screams, etc, conveniently drowned out by mass cheering across the city.

              Said phenomenon reminds me of one of my favourite tropes (which I've doubtless already mentioned on this very thread) - the deathly scream of a victim merging into the blasting horn of a passing Kenworth, or similar vehicle. This has been a running joke between me and a couple of friends for some years.

              You had to be there really.

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                Just watching an episode of the always excellent Endeavour, half way in and we’ve already had a copper taking three sugars in his tea, and a dog walker discovering a body.

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                  Vera comes up trumps again:

                  At the start of the episode a body was discovered out in the middle of nowhere next to Hadrian’s Wall. The crime scene was then thoroughly searched and cleared. Well over an hour into the episode, Vera and Joe suddenly appear back out there, standing discussing the case, despite there being no necessity to go back there at all. Then Vera starts complaining she can’t get a signal and they rush back to the city.

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                    Some stock dialogue

                    Baddie "We're very alike, you and I"
                    Goodie "We are nothing alike!"

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                      Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                      Some stock dialogue

                      Baddie "We're very alike, you and I"
                      Goodie "We are nothing alike!"
                      Michael Mann's 'Heat' was essentially an extension of that.

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                        God, that was dull.

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                          I was amazed to find that it was a shot for shot remake.

                          Edit: I was flicking late night and got awfully confused to see a scene from heat but with different actors.
                          Last edited by Levin; 26-01-2021, 20:49.

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                            Find something in this that’s not a cliche. “Welcome to the big leagues Joe.”:

                             

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                              Originally posted by Levin View Post
                              I was amazed to find that it was a shot for shot remake.

                              Edit: I was flicking late night and got awfully confused to see a scene from heat but with different actors.
                              It's a remake? Wow.

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                                Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                                God, that was dull.
                                Heat? Heat is awesome. All time great.

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                                  Let's not have a proper briefing before going on the mission. Why don't we walk around in public discussing the mission? (Been watching the clone wars cartoon and this happens a lot!)

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                                    Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                                    Let's not have a proper briefing before going on the mission. Why don't we walk around in public discussing the mission? (Been watching the clone wars cartoon and this happens a lot!)
                                    Yeah I love this in thrillers and war movies, a team of highly trained operatives will be talked through the intricate details of their nigh on impossible mission just as their helicopter touches down for the assault on the terrorist base...

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                                      Oh and something I may have mentioned previously but I'll rant about it again, the whole point of using a helicopter for a pursuit or to attack someone/something is that they are stand off weapons systems, they can hover a distance away and watch or take potshots, they do not have to continuously overfly the target, then do a massive turn and repeat the process over and over again, what you're thinking of there Mr or Mrs Director is planes, that's what planes have to do, helicopters however can stop and turn on a sixpence, that's the whole point of their existence.

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                                        Originally posted by Tratorello View Post

                                        Yeah I love this in thrillers and war movies, a team of highly trained operatives will be talked through the intricate details of their nigh on impossible mission just as their helicopter touches down for the assault on the terrorist base...
                                        Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.

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                                          Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post

                                          Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.
                                          True but, you know, montages and shit. Do a training montage with a voiceover going over the main points, like Ocean's 11 did with the heist plans.

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                                            That is an effective way to do it.

                                            Many films actually show the slide presentation. They always feature surveillance photos of the main bad guys. But Bond always already knows about them.

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                                              Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post

                                              Because committee meetings with power point presentations are boring.
                                              About the only plus point of Kong: Skull Island is that it had a proper briefing.

                                              Although if there is a briefing it will always be interrupted by a big, dumb soldier who shows off to the rest of his mates that he's going to kill the aliens / shoot lots of bad guys, whatever. That guy always dies.

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                                                Briefings are to inform the audience, who are presumed ignorant. "We'll be going into Cambodia [cue map] across the border from Vietnam ...". It is concerning that these ultra-special ops guys need a high school geography class only minutes before the precisely planned mission.

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                                                  One thing I don't really understand about the official briefings is that they often have those incredible window-like two way video wall things that they can walk around and manipulate by waving their hands at. I've used powerpoint enough to know that this functionality is not available, and I'm pretty sure that any government agency would have video display equipment that is cheaper and more obsolete than anything I can buy on Amazon.

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                                                    I can't really imagine they use Powerpoint tbh. A map on the wall with some sticky dots on seems more likely.

                                                    The other thing with briefings is why do they always sit in rows like schoolchildren? I think they even sit in rows inn Top Gun. Like there are ever chairs in any government installation just sitting about for people to put into rows for a briefing that lasts 2 minutes max.

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