The Dis-United Kingdom Thread - (Indyref 2, United Ireland poll, Welsh independence)

[Discordant Resonance]

Robin Swann has a decent chance of winning South Antrim, and it wouldn't take much to swing East Belfast for Naomi Long. Lagan Valley is a longer-odds shot, but Sorcha Eastwood already ate into Donaldson's majority in 2019.

[George C.]

Will ask the Pm...

[Patrick Thistle]

I find it quite astonishing that Welsh Labour don't announce votes cast in their leadership contest, only percentages of the vote.

There's sensitivity about membership figures but there's also an issue of openness and transparency given that the winner effectively become First Minister.

There's union votes and all sorts of other stuff in the mix as well.

[Patrick Thistle]

The response from the Welsh Secretary and the Tory MP for (checks notes) Dudley North to a Welsh Government report that included independence as just one of several constitutional options is disappointing. Not even allowed to talk about these things, apparently. Using this report as a stick to beat the Welsh Government with shows the real face of Tory unionism.

https://nation.cymru/news/report-dub...lsh-secretary/

I mean, we could ask why Wales has lower educational standards than the rest of the UK or the longest NHS waiting lists (which is debatable or whatever). Those things are fixed with money and the Westminster government's own reports say that Wales isn't given enough money. Plus all the money that was supposed to come to Wales to replace EU money is controlled by... oh, yeah, by Westminster.

This is the tactic of the unionists. Keep Wales under-funded. Then beat the devolved services for not performing. Don't fix them. Just keep hammering on about how rubbish everything is for the Welsh and how it's all their own fault. With their silly language and ridiculous socialism. Stupid ignorant shifty taffys always on the rob. Forever beggers at the gate.

[Duncan Gardner]

At least you and Dudley will soon be rid of Longhi

[Patrick Thistle]

Not 100% convinced on this but it does make a good case for not having a referendum about independence in Cymru

https://twitter.com/BylinesCymru/status/1769464999691403596?t=mN0Cjk_GT0HOMkEs9iyvIw&s=19

[Lang Spoon]

Wow. If the author thinks referendums are divisive, wait till they try to declare independence without one. At the core this reads like, winning is difficult, we probably wouldnt win, so lets magic up a nation somehow without one.

[Patrick Thistle]

Yeah, the idea that the devolved governments would be allowed to develop as institutions until they are capable of declaring independence ignores the current situation where those governments are being undermined and diminished by Westminster.

[Patrick Thistle]

I feel this indicates something very bleak in store in terms of Annibyniaeth for Cymru.

https://twitter.com/NationCymru/status/1771625452957778213?t=iBCI4Y49rNyBpvd3GW3oSw&s=19

[George C.]

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

It's going to be interesting to see how sensitively sinn fein trolls handle this topic, now that it doesn't directly involve a member of the army Council

[ursus arctos]

Let's just say that they don't seem to be restrained by the solemnity of the religious holiday

[George C.]

It's going to be interesting to see how sensitively sinn fein trolls handle this topic, now that it doesn't directly involve a member of the army Council

https://sluggerotoole.com/2024/03/29...edia-accounts/

Paranoid much?

[George C.]

Erm.

https://twitter.com/SJAMcBride/status/1773696555087781996?t=RZqMiSLUcfdUS8eDqStAoQ&s=19

[torres]

Why is it always the ones who you suspect the most?

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

well tbh everyone thought he was a closeted homosexual. This was not on anyone's radar, but then again it never really is.

[Discordant Resonance]

Why is it always the ones who you suspect the most?

The irony being that the fish-shaped badge he always wore to public events is an overt traditional symbol of Christian values.

[George C.]

So yet another hypocritical unionist bigot.

Quelle surprise.

[Lang Spoon]

Just give it a fucking rest.

[NHH]

well tbh everyone thought he was a closeted homosexual. This was not on anyone's radar, but then again it never really is.

I've found an accusation against him on twitter back in 2021 for the offence for which he has been charged, so it was on someone's radar, at least.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Jesus fuck. To pluck a fucking example from the air, in 1996 gerry Adams niece Anne, came to him to tell him that gerry's brother had been abusing her throughout her childhood. He sided with his brother. When his brother came to him and told him in 2000 he took him into his house and got him a job working with children. And then only said anything to the police when the case was well on its way to court, the BBC were about to air a programme about the whole thing and his role in it. I am fucked if I cam distinguish a difference between this and fucking archbishop Ryan in 1970's dublin. Yet the entire sinn fein party decided that this was 100% fucking fine and that dirty cunt would go on to lead his party of dirty cunts, well probably to this day.

The republican movement was riddled with child abusers to a degree unusual even by the standards of irish voluntary organisations of the 1970's. I would be seriously slow before I started throwing stones.particularly on this particular topic.

This sort of awful toxic bullshit is a truly bipartisan activity, it knows no difference between race, creed or conviction. I suppose that the wider lesson that we can draw from it is that a cunt is a cunt is a cunt, no matter what hat or Jersey or sash they are wearing. Best to try not be a cunt, at least some of the time.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

I've found an accusation against him on twitter back in 2021 for the offence for which he has been charged, so it was on someone's radar, at least.

In fairness, those sort of twitter accusations are not uncommon.

[torres]

What TAB said.

[Lang Spoon]

Jesus fuck. To pluck a fucking example from the air, in 1996 gerry Adams niece Anne, came to him to tell him that gerry's brother had been abusing her throughout her childhood. He sided with his brother. When his brother came to him and told him in 2000 he took him into his house and got him a job working with children. And then only said anything to the police when the case was well on its way to court, the BBC were about to air a programme about the whole thing and his role in it. I am fucked if I cam distinguish a difference between this and fucking archbishop Ryan in 1970's dublin. Yet the entire sinn fein party decided that this was 100% fucking fine and that dirty cunt would go on to lead his party of dirty cunts, well probably to this day.

The republican movement was riddled with child abusers to a degree unusual even by the standards of irish voluntary organisations of the 1970's. I would be seriously slow before I started throwing stones.particularly on this particular topic.

This sort of awful toxic bullshit is a truly bipartisan activity, it knows no difference between race, creed or conviction. I suppose that the wider lesson that we can draw from it is that a cunt is a cunt is a cunt, no matter what hat or Jersey or sash they are wearing. Best to try not be a cunt, at least some of the time.

Yeah yeah but Gerry is a funny auld lad on the twitter. Great gas. If it wasnt the fear of the toxic sludge thats coming down the line next id enjoy the Shinners starting their slide down in the 26 before theyve even taken power.

[Patrick Thistle]

In case anyone is interested in learning more about Propel, one of the marginal pro-Indy parties, this came through the door today. The wording is odd and a bit dog-whistley ("common sense policies", "protecting our freedoms")