The Dis-United Kingdom Thread - (Indyref 2, United Ireland poll, Welsh independence)

[ad hoc]

East Anglia and Essex? Isn't Essex in East Anglia?

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

East Anglia and Essex? Isn't Essex in East Anglia?

No it's not normally included. The Angle/Saxon distinction is probably why it's not included.

[Diable Rouge]

As BLT says, they were separate kingdoms under The Heptarchy.

[Lang Spoon]

That's a really good deal for Yorkshire/Northumbria. First decent governance in a thousand years.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

but a federal germany could only come about when prussia was abolished. the USSR and Russian Federation have been hamstrung by "Great Russian Chauvanism".

to the same degree i think that a federal UK can only come about through the abolition of England as a national project. I would cede East Anglia and Essex to Holland, Kent and Sussex to France and Lincolnshire and Yorkshire to Denmark. I'd restore the lands west of the Severn to Wales.

Middlesex could become the capital of rump England.

Well as the name makes abundantly clear, Scotland is an ancient irish imperial venture. so we'll be having the scottish protectorate back. Wales cornwall and northumbria to be the only bits allowed to call themselves british

[Wouter D]

Belgium gets no respect. Gifts for everyone but them.

[Lang Spoon]

Prepare for the Pictish Secessionist movement in about 20 years or so Berba. Mibees Argyll will stay being Ireland over the water. Until Norway invades everyone and it all starts over again.

[Lang Spoon]

Belgium gets no respect. Gifts for everyone but them.

Caesar found a tribe of Belgae settled on the rainy island across the sea as well, that's surely claim enough to get a bit of Kent.

[Diable Rouge]

Just wait until Whitehall chooses to audit the Isle of Man - they'd be Irish in no time.

[ad hoc]

No it's not normally included. The Angle/Saxon distinction is probably why it's not included.

I can assure you that Colchester and Southend featured on Match of the Week with Gerry Harrison, which is clearly the true mark of what is and what isn't East Anglia

[DPDPDPDP]

Just wait until Whitehall chooses to audit the Isle of Man - they'd be Irish in no time.

Eh? The Isle of Man is not part of the UK. Although it is a crown dependency, it has its own government, laws, taxes etc. oh and no Covid.

[Diable Rouge]

Still under the jurisdiction of the Home Office, however, and laws could theoretically be extended to the Crown Dependencies.

[Diable Rouge]

This is excellent by Labour for Indy Wales:

https://twitter.com/Lab4IndyWales/status/1341059404792258561

[Patrick Thistle]

That's a great thread DR.

This reiterates something I was talking about recently

https://twitter.com/JamesKelly/status/1341289172439617536?s=19

[DPDPDPDP]

Still under the jurisdiction of the Home Office, however, and laws could theoretically be extended to the Crown Dependencies.

Diable, in theory yes, but I don’t believe in practice that this has ever been done.

[Lang Spoon]

That's a great thread DR.

This reiterates something I was talking about recently

https://twitter.com/JamesKelly/status/1341289172439617536?s=19

Brown was too busy trying to sign Marvin Andrews back from Rangers to bother his head with such trifles as the Constitution.

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

This is excellent by Labour for Indy Wales:

https://twitter.com/Lab4IndyWales/status/1341059404792258561

Imagine if Keir Starmer could remember that Labour is in power in Wales.

[DPDPDPDP]

Brown was too busy trying to sign Marvin Andrews back from Rangers to bother his head with such trifles as the Constitution.

Marvin Andrews would probably do a better job at running the country than Boris and his cronies.

[Lang Spoon]

It really is self-defeating that most of his jibes at the Nats could be turned on the Cardiff Administration. I guess they still assume they'll be in power forever there and Wales can safely be ignored.

[Antepli Ejderha]

A great thread that DR.

Labour in power in Wales is doing OK, their hands are firmly tied by Westminster but despite that they've done OK.

They've got a choice to make, either follow the independence route or become as extinct and irrelevant as Labour in Scotland. The signs are positive that they've been learning a little, and this will help the independence movement grow stronger.

30% plus is rather large and not too be ignored.

[Patrick Thistle]

I think I've voted Labour in every General and Senedd election since 1997, but unless they at least commit to a referendum then I'm not voting for them again.

[Patrick Thistle]

Ooh, here's an idea, maybe if I want Labour to listen to me I should become more racist and bigoted. They seem to want to chase those votes. (At least in England they do)

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

Ooh, here's an idea, maybe if I want Labour to listen to me I should become more racist and bigoted. They seem to want to chase those votes. (At least in England they do)

don't encourage YesCymru...

[Diable Rouge]

Some Scots appear to be in a froth at the idea of prioritising Gaelic speakers for housing in "gasp" a Gaeltacht:

https://twitter.com/Janela_X/status/1343110018049200129

[DCI Harry Batt]

What a horrific bunch in the replies. And the thread starter. And the MoS obvs.