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  • treibeis
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    Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post



    Ha! I do get feedback. Often on student evals, "Nice shoes!" type of thing. Also corridor comments from other students like "Whoa... cool vest dude!"
    Yes, and I get "Good hair, brother" from Turks here. I know what they mean, they know what they mean, both parties know what the respective other means.

    And we co-exist quite happily.

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  • jdsx
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    I've always wondered if orchestras provide new members with some kind of discount on the required uniform.
    Not back in the day, it was just expected that you had evening tails, a DJ (i.e. black dinner jacket with black bow tie),and (for summer concerts) a white DJ! Many orchestras have negotiated some sort of allowance with HMRC in lieu of a 'uniform allowance', but the rules are complicated, depending on whether you are schedule E (PAYE) or schedule D (freelance)....
    Nowadays, the orchestra I work for is usually just 'all black', meaning black suit, black shirt and dark tie....

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  • Tactical Genius
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    ADC rocking the Khalid Muhammed look.
    Very 1980's Public Enemy night of the living baseheads.
    I have always like the cut of your jib man.



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  • Amor de Cosmos
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    Originally posted by treibeis View Post
    Fucking hell.

    On the other hand, I can understand why your students don't want to be mates with you.


    Ha! I do get feedback. Often on student evals, "Nice shoes!" type of thing. Also corridor comments from other students like "Whoa... cool vest dude!"

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  • Fussbudget
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    My workplace doesn't have a dress code. We used to have one of those highly nebulous 'smart casual' ones that nobody understood, but we also haven't had a payrise in ten years and the board realised that scrapping the dress code was a cheap way to raise morale and stave off insurrection.

    So now I dress exactly the same in the office as on a day off, mostly jeans/t-shirts/jumpers/day dresses with Vans/brogues/DMs. I'm also lucky enough to work from home quite a lot these days, which I normally do in what I guess you'd call 'loungewear' (smartish trackie bottoms, scruffier t-shirts, sweatshirts.) Also glasses because I can't be arsed with contacts if I'm not leaving the house.

    Originally posted by Balderdasha View Post
    Yes, sadly, they really do make women look more elegant.
    I beg to differ.

    Any woman's shoes that is actually comfortable is correspondingly ugly.
    And with this also. Isn't it great that we all have different tastes though.

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  • ursus arctos
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    I've always wondered if orchestras provide new members with some kind of discount on the required uniform.

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  • Wouter D
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    Almost anything goes in my office, unless there is a meeting with an important project partner. Then you would still get away with a shirt and jeans, but dress pants and a dress shirt are preferred.

    The only moment where the dress code gets strict, is when I'm in the committee during a PhD defense. I must wear a dark suit with white shirt, black shoes, and a grey tie. Demands on me are substantially better than those on full professors, who must appear in formal gown and cap, no matter how hot the weather gets.

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  • jdsx
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    Hmmm... in my previous job, for evening concerts, white tie and (evening) tails.... like this

    https://www.oliverbrown.org.uk/white...ing-tails.html

    Always. Even on a 12-concert tour with not a day off in between..... got a bit smelly in the gents dressing room by the end of the tour I can tell you ;-)

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  • treibeis
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    Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post
    Early in the semester one of a series of waistcoats made of Nigerian/Ghanaian textiles (bought from an eccentric ex-savile row tailor in Camden Passage.) Shirts are a solid colour, green, orange, red, cream and so on depending on the colour of the waistcoat. Slacks with coloured braces (suspenders) and suede shoes, either red, dark green or orange and khaki. As we move through the classes clothing gets more informal. Jeans, leather jacket, etc. This isn't a code, it's my choice. I teach visual communication so clothing is relevant. Beginning with a traditional (albeit colourful) wardrobe indicates a separation from the students ie: I'm not their friend, but what we'll learn isn't going to be boring. Or that's my thinking.
    Fucking hell.

    On the other hand, I can understand why your students don't want to be mates with you.

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  • Amor de Cosmos
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    Early in the semester one of a series of waistcoats made of Nigerian/Ghanaian textiles (bought from an eccentric ex-savile row tailor in Camden Passage.) Shirts are a solid colour, green, orange, red, cream and so on depending on the colour of the waistcoat. Slacks with coloured braces (suspenders) and suede shoes, either red, dark green or orange and khaki. As we move through the classes clothing gets more informal. Jeans, leather jacket, etc. This isn't a code, it's my choice. I teach visual communication so clothing is relevant. Beginning with a traditional (albeit colourful) wardrobe indicates a separation from the students ie: I'm not their friend, but what we'll learn isn't going to be boring. Or that's my thinking.

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  • Balderdasha
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
    Balders, there are a number of organisations here (both non profit and commercial) that re-home lightly wore corporate-friendly clothing. I'm sure that they have UK analogues by now.
    I know there are at least a couple of charities that do this here. I may be employing the services of one soon.

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  • elguapo4
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    In my previous incarnation I wore a uniform and could echo what Balders said about them, now I'm no longer dealing with the public it's anything goes, Polo shirt and jeans generally.

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  • Balderdasha
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    I get suits, shirts, proper shoes...but high heels are just so uncomfortable (I suppose, never having worn them, but I've been so informed). And do they really make people more elegant?
    Yes, they are uncomfortable. Yes, sadly, they really do make women look more elegant.

    I compromise by wearing low heels that are relatively comfortable and only wearing them for the minimum time necessary. I do any commute or walking in trainers and only swap to heels at the door of whichever institution I'm going to. I can do a day indoors in heels as long as I'm not standing all day.

    The problem with flats is that I find women's smart flat shoes to be more uncomfortable often. Ballet flats are a joke. If they have no strap across the roof of the foot I find it impossible to walk in them. Any woman's shoes that is actually comfortable is correspondingly ugly.

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  • treibeis
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    I've been in full-time employment for 36 years. Apart from safety shoes, I've always worn what I wanted to wear.

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  • Walt Flanagans Dog
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    Shirt, trousers, shoes, but tie not compulsory - we were told this on day one, but it took me a while to get out of the habit of wearing tie every day. Still wear one when I'm on a white shirts week, but otherwise no tie. Used to wear a suit in previous jobs but very rarely in this one, and during a weight loss transition managed to go some time without the need to wear one until one of my friends got married and I had to buy a new one.

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  • Patrick Thistle
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    There's infection control procedures in place where I work so "bare below the elbow". Makes it a bit draughty round the old nethers, mind. Badumtish.

    But seriously, short sleeves are a must. Other than that anything goes. I normally wear grey or black trousers and a grey or black jumper (alternating colours). Although today I wore a blue jumper.

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  • ursus arctos
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    When we have done this before, we have always concluded that the UK in general and The City in particular are much more conservative in terms of dress than we are on this side of the pond.

    The idea of an early years teacher wearing a suit would have been seen as eccentric at best when I was in those classes in the early 60s.

    Balders, there are a number of organisations here (both non profit and commercial) that re-home lightly wore corporate-friendly clothing. I'm sure that they have UK analogues by now.

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  • Sporting
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    I get suits, shirts, proper shoes...but high heels are just so uncomfortable (I suppose, never having worn them, but I've been so informed). And do they really make people more elegant?

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  • Balderdasha
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    Work uniforms I have worn:

    A full uniform when I was a bank cashier. Had the advantage of not having to think what I was going to wear each morning. Made of horrible fabric that got too hot in the summer.

    TEFL teaching in China. Could wear whatever I wanted within the weird Chinese rules about what's considered decent. So no strappy tops (bra straps must never be visible), no crop tops (can't expose your stomach), but hot pants and bondage-inspired trousers with loads of zips and chains were fine (I didn't wear these, my fellow colleagues often did). I usually wore cropped jeans and short-sleeved tops.

    Consultancy work in central London. Started out being able to wear whatever we wanted, and expectations gradually got more conservative as I mingled with more senior clients. Got told off for wearing blue tights, wearing a mini skirt, looking generally 'too sexy' (I think that was because of a pair of knee-high boots). Ended up with a wardrobe of a few skirt, jacket, top combinations that no-one found too offensive. Idiotically gave them all away when I put on weight. Would probably fit back in most of it now.

    Mum uniform: jeans or shorts with enough pockets to hold my wallet, phone and keys (never have enough free hands to hold a handbag). Variety of stained t-shirts.

    If I need to smarten up now: I have exactly one dress, one jacket, one pair of heels, that serves a multi-purpose function as suitable for a wedding, funeral or job interview. If I ever actually get a job, I'm screwed.

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  • caja-dglh
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    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post

    A surfing term that will be recognised in other places where surfing is popular, but has become ubiquitous here
    Sporting doesn't recognize them and just defaults to the European norm of "Speedo's"

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  • ursus arctos
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    Originally posted by Sporting View Post
    Well, I had to google board shorts. Is that an Americanism?
    A surfing term that will be recognised in other places where surfing is popular, but has become ubiquitous here

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  • Toby Gymshorts
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    Yep, mostly I go full cosplay.

    As in, I wear T-shirt, jeans and *gasp* trainers. Men are supposed to wear a shirt with a collar (so a polo shirt, which I sometimes wear), ripped jeans are a no-no (fine by me) and shoes (which I will sometimes wear if I feel like wearing a casual shirt as opposed to a T).

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  • Sporting
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    Originally posted by Toby Gymshorts View Post
    Suit and tie for me, as insurance is a very "traditional"* business.

    Dress down on Fridays, but there are some rules. Rules which I take great delight in breaking.
    You mean you dress up rather than down?

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  • Sporting
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    Well, I had to google board shorts. Is that an Americanism?

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  • Toby Gymshorts
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    Suit and tie for me, as insurance is a very "traditional"* business.

    Dress down on Fridays, but there are some rules. Rules which I take great delight in breaking.

    *some might say archaic, but not me. No siree Bob.

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