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    I take back my comments of a couple of years ago that Israel was not a fascist-genocidal state. A lynching on live TV ffs.

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      I suppose this shite is all kicking off again because Netenyahu can't form a government (not to mention he is being investigated for corruption), so an emergency situation would lead to a nice excuse for a "Unity Government" headed by none other than himself. And of course it would be unpatriotic to investigate the financial dealings of the Generalissimo during war time.

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        Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Post
        a bit of a bizarre tweet that one

        if the place sold shite ice cream, the attacks would be justified?

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          No. And that's not what's being suggested. The tweeter is adding some personal context.

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            Well obviously I realise that, but it is worded so awkwardly.

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              Surprised to see this at the NY Times
              https://www.nytimes.com/2021/05/13/o...smid=url-share

              The deafening strikes destroy Gaza’s infrastructure, cutting off roads leading to hospitals and water supplies, bringing down access to the internet. Many of the targets Israel hits have no strategic value. Israel knows this, and knows how it unnerves us. I wonder what those officers do in their command centers: Do they draw straws on which block to annihilate? Do they roll a dice?

              Wednesday was the last day of Ramadan. The holy month of fasting ends with Eid al-Fitr, a celebration considered to be the second-happiest in Islam. Children traditionally wear new clothes and receive cash gifts and toys from relatives. Muslims in Palestine visit their families and eat together. Not this Eid, though.

              By early Thursday, 69 people in Gaza were reported to have been killed in Israel’s airstrikes, including commanders of Hamas, the group that governs the Strip, and 17 children. At least seven Israelis, including one child, had died from the hundreds of rockets fired by Hamas.

              In 2014, during the last war, Israel killed my brother Hamada; it destroyed my apartment when it brought down the family home that housed 40 people. It killed my wife’s grandfather, her brother, her sister and her sister’s three kids. We have not overcome that trauma yet. We have not finished rebuilding the homes Israel obliterated then.

              Nusayba and I are a perfectly average Palestinian couple: Between us we have lost more than 30 relatives.

              These days, as we lie in the darkness at night, I fear the worst — and I fear the best. If we come out of this alive, how will my children’s psyches fare in the years to come, living in constant dread of the next attack?

              On Tuesday, Linah asked her question again after my wife and I didn’t answer it the first time: Can they destroy our building if the power is out? I wanted to say: “Yes, little Linah, Israel can still destroy the beautiful al-Jawharah building, or any of our buildings, even in the darkness. Each of our homes is full of tales and stories that must be told. Our homes annoy the Israeli war machine, mock it, haunt it, even in the darkness. It can’t abide their existence. And, with American tax dollars and international immunity, Israel presumably will go on destroying our buildings until there is nothing left.”

              But I can’t tell Linah any of this. So I lie: “No, sweetie. They can’t see us in the dark.”

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                Same paper, less surprising

                And "news" rather than "opinion"

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                  Worth a watch

                  https://twitter.com/edokonrad/status/1392932482442428417?s=21

                  972 magazine is one of the best alternative media on Israel Palestine

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                    https://twitter.com/IDF/status/1392953390443991040?s=19

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                      this interview with Deutsche Welle has been pulled as antisemitic

                      cant see it myself

                      https://twitter.com/AliAbunimah/status/1392805456385556482?s=20

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                        first war aim acheived earlier today

                        https://twitter.com/AmiKaufman/status/1392897129836859397?s=20

                        https://twitter.com/dancohen3000/status/1392957171026087937?s=20

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                          Important thread

                          https://twitter.com/abrahamjoseph/status/1392804179404546048?s=21

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                            what this (currently) means

                            https://twitter.com/Beltrew/status/1392958617897287681?s=20

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                              Mayor warns citizens of pogrom

                              https://twitter.com/lisang/status/1392968444497256452?s=21

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                                https://twitter.com/hzomlot/status/1392969770681737216?s=20

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                                  the great Ilan Pappe

                                  https://twitter.com/celik/status/1391212835024343040?s=20

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                                    https://twitter.com/NaamodUK/status/1393104849198358534?s=20

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                                      https://twitter.com/LahavHarkov/status/1393105527807385601?s=20

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                                        Horrendous but essential viewing

                                        https://twitter.com/piercepenniless/status/1393109648169897987?s=20

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                                          The guy at 1:12 is interviewed in another video during day time. He seems to be doing the rounds on the videos. How can we say that all the people in that video are not extremist settlers? The one at 0:23 sounds like like a newly arrived American settler.

                                          An Israeli school friend of mine from Tel Aviv had to go back to Israel at 19 to do army service. He told me, "It's stupid that we should have to protect these Americans that want to live in the West Bank." He managed to get out of front line service by managing to convince the authorities that he couldn't be trusted with a gun, and was eventually put in computer communications. Those Israelis exist as well, and are probably not out and about in West Jerusalem in the middle of a crisis.

                                          It's definitely true though, that the army service aspect in Israel really leads to a large part of the population not having a very understanding or intelligent point of view. Larger than your average other country...

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                                            I can barely cope with all the messages I'm reading from people in Gaza. God knows how they can. How the kids in the middle of this are going to ever get over this. It's heartbreaking (and heartbreaking, even meant literally, doesn't come close to expressing it)

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                                              Really sorry to hear that ad hoc - and do send solidarity and let them know that many people are thinking of them.

                                              If there are messages that you think people would like to have shared further do please post them here

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                                                It's an absolute horror. Some Hamas guy (maybe) lives in some apartment block so the whole block gets blown up. No different to how the west conducts itself in other middle east countries, to be fair.

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                                                  Is there anywhere in Gaza that "Hamas" could be that isn't full of "civilians"?

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                                                    Well, given that they are the recognised government of the territory . . .

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