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    #51
    Algeria waste a penalty and a number of solid chances and are pegged back by Cote d'Ivoire.

    1-1 with 20 minutes to go.

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      #52
      Algeria were ruthless with the penalties, except for the last one which hit the post. Cote d'Ivoire returned the favor.

      Madagascar's fairy tale ended in the second half of their quarter final, when Tunisia ran out to a 3-0 victory.

      Two North-African teams advance to the semis, to meet two West-African teams. I'd rank Algeria as favorites, closely followed by Nigeria. It's hard to cal that one, since both countries look really good. If their semi goes all the way to penalties, Senegal might edge the final by being better rested; I think their squad is substantially better than Tunisia's*.

      Whatever happens from here on out, the tournament has been a blast, as it so often has been.

      *quarter final blow-out or not, I haven't forgotten that in the group phase they didn't even manage to beat Mauritania.
      Last edited by Wouter D; 11-07-2019, 21:53.

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        #53
        South Africa was easy work
        https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZHbjggC1cTU Some footage of Kanu dancing (ladies look away 6-10 seconds)

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          #54
          I can't see Nigeria winning it. They are a solid, but pretty unspectacular and the over-reliance on the goal scoring of Ighalo is worrying

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            #55
            Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post
            Get in. Our name is on the cup.
            Who is "our"?

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              #56
              TG is of Nigerian heritage and has been bigging up the Super Eagles on here for decades.

              His work on behalf of Jay Jay Okocha is particularly legendary.

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                #57
                I'm sad Madagascar are out but what a run. Best debutant performance at a previously well-established major finals for some time. (I'll let DG and Ray squabble over Non Iron or Wales in '58 before Sam, cantagalo or ursus or someone comes in and says Peru won the Copa America in 75 on their first ever punt at it).
                Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 12-07-2019, 13:11.

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                  #58
                  Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                  TG is of Nigerian heritage and has been bigging up the Super Eagles on here for decades.

                  His work on behalf of Jay Jay Okocha is particularly legendary.
                  I asked because although I suspected Nigeria he went from name on the trophy to can't see them winning it!

                  Make yer mind up, TG!

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                    #59
                    Originally posted by Sporting View Post

                    I asked because although I suspected Nigeria he went from name on the trophy to can't see them winning it!

                    Make yer mind up, TG!
                    Fair point. I was trying to do modesty which I am clearly useless at.

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                      #60
                      Nah, just the normal bipolar expectations or otherwise of a footie fan!

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                        #61
                        TG, maybe you're the best person to answer this: what's the religious/ethnic distribution of the Nigeria squad and have there been/are there any subsequent tensions resulting?

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                          #62
                          Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                          Nah, just the normal bipolar expectations or otherwise of a footie fan!
                          That too lol.

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                            #63
                            Originally posted by Sporting View Post
                            TG, maybe you're the best person to answer this: what's the religious/ethnic distribution of the Nigeria squad
                            Hi Sporting,

                            As a majority of Nigerian footballers are from the West (predominately Yoruba) and East (predominately Ibo) the religious majority has always been Christian.

                            There have been a large number of Muslims who have represented such as:

                            Muda Lawal
                            Raschid Yekinni
                            Mr Garba Lawal

                            And going by the names, there are a couple of Muslims in the current squad:

                            Abdullahi Shehu
                            Jamilu Collins
                            Ahmed Musa

                            have there been/are there any subsequent tensions resulting?
                            Religious, no as a number of the Yoruba footballers are Christian and Muslim.
                            Ethnic, outside of the obvious sectarian nutters it is mainly the subject of bar room discussions of inter-tribal banter when we inevitably crash out against Cameroon and Ghana. It was a bigger deal 20-30 years ago where there were alot of players with similar abilities and the competition for places were much fiercer but even then, allegations of players/agents/politicians bribing the manager to get into the team were taken more seriously.

                            It is no more different than when England team and the suspicion that playing for a BRC (or Spurs) gets you in ahead of better players at smaller teams.

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                              #64
                              [img]https://ichef.bbci.co.uk/onesport/cp..._633925858.jpg[/img]

                              Maybe it's written on the other side. I must say it's a very strange looking trophy. I like it a lot. The European championship trophy looks like something you'd keep granny in if she didn't want to wind up underground.

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                                #65
                                Originally posted by Tactical Genius View Post

                                Hi Sporting,

                                As a majority of Nigerian footballers are from the West (predominately Yoruba) and East (predominately Ibo) the religious majority has always been Christian.

                                There have been a large number of Muslims who have represented such as:

                                Muda Lawal
                                Raschid Yekinni
                                Mr Garba Lawal

                                And going by the names, there are a couple of Muslims in the current squad:

                                Abdullahi Shehu
                                Jamilu Collins
                                Ahmed Musa



                                Religious, no as a number of the Yoruba footballers are Christian and Muslim.
                                Ethnic, outside of the obvious sectarian nutters it is mainly the subject of bar room discussions of inter-tribal banter when we inevitably crash out against Cameroon and Ghana. It was a bigger deal 20-30 years ago where there were alot of players with similar abilities and the competition for places were much fiercer but even then, allegations of players/agents/politicians bribing the manager to get into the team were taken more seriously.

                                It is no more different than when England team and the suspicion that playing for a BRC (or Spurs) gets you in ahead of better players at smaller teams.
                                Thanks. I know a lot more now.

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                                  #66
                                  Not many better things in football than a penalty with a stop-start runup being saved. Massive twatball points for our Tunisian friend here; game with Senegal still scoreless.

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                                    #67
                                    Glorious FK by Mahrez to beat Nigeria in the last minute of stoppage time. That's how cup matches are supposed to end.

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                                      #68
                                      cracking free kick to win the semi in dramatic circumstances

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                                        #69
                                        Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View Post
                                        Glorious FK by Mahrez to beat Nigeria in the last minute of stoppage time. That's how cup matches are supposed to end.
                                        Bonus points for the Nigerian who dropped himself like a felled tree behind the wall while Mahrez did his run-up. If he'd have tried something under the wall, that guy would've blocked it.

                                        So the final will be a re-run of a group game. I'd say that Algeria deserve to win this; they've beaten Senegal in the group too, and while Tunisia were no mugs, Senegal's road to the final was much easier than Algeria's. On the other hand, Senegal have only conceded a single goal in the entire tournament, and I quite like the cut of Aliou Cissé's jib.

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                                          #70
                                          This is generally one of my favorite national team tournaments but unfortunately, I missed almost all group games because I was traveling and then watched backwards before BeIN USA started deleting from on demand,. I say all of that because I have no clear sense of the group stage, but have watched all knock-out games. I'd say that this is the final that makes the most sense. Both teams deserve to be here and Algeria have looked the best of the bunch. I think we should have a good final because Algeria will attack and I don't see them pulling the hatchet job on Senegal that Tunisia used. So we should have two attacking sides playing football. I don't think Senegal has been as tactically sophisticated. They seem to choose a wing to attack and then keep that going. It would be nice to have a new champion to mix things up. But Senegal better start practicing the penalties; they've been horrible on this front.

                                          I'll see if I can watch more group games before this final happens to have a better sense of the tournament as a whole.

                                          BTW, the Nigerian who was dropping down behind the wall was chastised by the ref when he dropped down before the wall was set. I've seen other referees follow a similar pattern in other games, which seems ridiculous to me. If the move is illegal then issue a yellow card. If the move is not in violation of the laws of the game then the ref needs to leave it be. And finally on the ref topic, I think the refereeing has been good in the knockout round, but my pet peeve featured again: why does every penalty need to come with a yellow card. There is no way the Algerian defender deserved a yellow card even if I generally agreed with the penalty call. Harsh, but still a penalty.

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                                            #71
                                            Originally posted by danielmak View Post

                                            BTW, the Nigerian who was dropping down behind the wall was chastised by the ref when he dropped down before the wall was set. I've seen other referees follow a similar pattern in other games, which seems ridiculous to me. If the move is illegal then issue a yellow card. If the move is not in violation of the laws of the game then the ref needs to leave it be..
                                            does the ref not have a responsibility to stop anything that might affect players safety?a guy lying behind the wall is a danger to other players and they,with their studs,are a danger to him.id also say that if any opposition player tripped over him once play restarted it would surely be a penalty as hed wilfully put himself there as a hazard to everyone

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                                              #72
                                              Originally posted by steviecowden View Post
                                              does the ref not have a responsibility to stop anything that might affect players safety?a guy lying behind the wall is a danger to other players and they,with their studs,are a danger to him.id also say that if any opposition player tripped over him once play restarted it would surely be a penalty as hed wilfully put himself there as a hazard to everyone
                                              By that reasoning, every tackle would be illegal.

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                                                #73
                                                Originally posted by steviecowden View Post

                                                does the ref not have a responsibility to stop anything that might affect players safety?a guy lying behind the wall is a danger to other players and they,with their studs,are a danger to him.id also say that if any opposition player tripped over him once play restarted it would surely be a penalty as hed wilfully put himself there as a hazard to everyone
                                                On one hand, I could see how this move of lying down could be seen as unsafe since the defender was facing the goal and wouldn't see a teammate who could step on the defender on the ground. With that said, the insane expansion of handball calls (most notably when attacking players seem to try to kick the ball at the defender's arm rather than go to goal), it makes sense to have one's arms facing the goal rather than the free kick taker. On the other hand, the wall is either going to jump or stay low. If they jump, the balls goes under. Having someone there makes sense.

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                                                  #74
                                                  Nigeria win 0-1 in the third place match. It was a deserving win in a match that wasn't the most exciting. I wouldn't be disappointed if the bronze match in the Olympics was the only third place match to survive. Tunisia gave up another sloppy goal very early in the match and then seemed to want to repeat the tactics used against Senegal, relying on a lot of fouls to slow down Nigeria.

                                                  Nigeria is undefeated in third place matches (7-0 if I heard the stat correctly).

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                                                    #75
                                                    Algeria's shithousery is quite something to behold.

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