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I wish the interviewer had said why he opposed BDS. Waters explains his position (not terribly well at times, but he answers the questions) but aside from asserting "it's antisemitic" the SZ guy never actually explains why or indeed really addresses his own position in the way he asks of Waters
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Even Israel thought Trump was being cruel to the Palestinians. Even Israel, the country that murders, brutalises and oppresses them for kicks. That's how bad Trump's policy is.
https://twitter.com/kenklippenstein/status/1069628314992762881
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Gideon Levy. Why I'm obsessed with the occupation
https://www.haaretz.com/opinion/.pre...athy-1.6699157
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View Postpetition here
https://twitter.com/ryangrim/status/1068274830666080256
though I think it's just you and me about...
As a professor and a learned man, he should have known that there were better subjects to risk losing his job for.
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Seanad (upper house of Irish parliament) passes the Occupied Territories Bill, prohibiting imports from Jewish settlements.
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To TG : You'll have to run that by me. He has left with his integrity intact. To be honest enhanced (I'll confess I'd never heard of him before this). And what better subjects to go to the wall over than protesting against egregious human rights violations and racially motivated mass murder?
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Gideon Levy's latest searing piece for Haaretz. This is the reality for every Palestinian. Anyone who tries to justify it is nothing but a racist bag of shit
https://www.haaretz.com/israel-news/...heid-1.6723181
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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostTo TG : You'll have to run that by me. He has left with his integrity intact. To be honest enhanced (I'll confess I'd never heard of him before this).
He is one of a raft of those professional black people who got jobs on these news Channels when Obama got elected.
A few weeks ago he was "forced" to disavow Minister Farrakhan, he should have walked then.
And what better subjects to go to the wall over than protesting against egregious human rights violations and racially motivated mass murder?
I would say the same thing to a Palestinian who was afforded the opportunity to talk at the UN and then made a speech about police brutality in the US inner cities against black people.
However Mark Lamont Hill chose to soft shoe about that and go hard on behalf of the Palestinians.
Actually, Deontay Wilder puts it better than me.
I should point out that I sympathise with their cause (despite they behaviour towards my people in West Africa). It's about priorities.Last edited by Tactical Genius; 10-12-2018, 23:45.
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Originally posted by Tactical Genius View PostI first heard about him as he was an apologist for the Trayvon Martin killing. The second time I heard from him was his comments after the death of Frances Cress Welsing.
He is one of a raft of those professional black people who got jobs on these news Channels when Obama got elected.
A few weeks ago he was "forced" to disavow Minister Farrakhan, he should have walked then.
Those things are taking place alot closer to his home than Palestine.
I would say the same thing to a Palestinian who was afforded the opportunity to talk at the UN and then made a speech about police brutality in the US inner cities against black people.
However Mark Lamont Hill chose to soft shoe about that and go hard on behalf of the Palestinians.
I should point out that I sympathise with their cause (despite they behaviour towards my people in West Africa). It's about priorities.
Obviously I recognise that there is a lot in common between the Palestinians in Palestine and the black population of the USA (indeed there are increasing numbers of links being made, despite the actions of cunts like Pharrell Williams). The Palestinians exist at an even further end of the continuum of really shit racist oppression that is being done to an entire people, but in general, the situations do have a lot in common
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Originally posted by ad hoc View PostI wouldn't say he went "hard". He merely pointed out the appalling lack of any kind of freedom and rights. But again, I don't have any reason to disagree with your main point
What have the Palestinians done to your people in West Africa? Seriously. You'll have to educate me here.
https://www.asiabyafrica.com/point-a...enship-problem
Lebanese /Palestinians (It was the same place when many came over) are the largest non-African minority in West Africa. They are prevalent in the import/Export business and are well know for their sharp practices and their treatment of locals similar to what Indians were accused of in post colonial Kenya and Uganda and what the Chinese are increasingly being accused of throughout the continent.
Obviously I recognise that there is a lot in common between the Palestinians in Palestine and the black population of the USA (indeed there are increasing numbers of links being made, despite the actions of cunts like Pharrell Williams). The Palestinians exist at an even further end of the continuum of really shit racist oppression that is being done to an entire people, but in general, the situations do have a lot in common
https://www.iol.co.za/entertainment/...s-gig-18114668
The biggest shock was Ziggy Marley, his dad must be rolling in his grave.
I agree with the rest of what you say. My point is, if you are going to risk your career on standing up for an oppressed people, then its logical that you do it for your own?
If he was white, he is free to champion the cause for any disenfranchised people he likes as his people are not oppressed (despite what the Proud boys and the EDL say). I hope that clarifies my point.Last edited by Tactical Genius; 11-12-2018, 14:01.
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Thanks for the information about the Lebanese immigrant community in West Africa. I had no idea that there was such a huge diaspora there. The arguments against them trouble me somewhat though - in the same way that arguments about immigrants tend to do everywhere. The tone in this case reminds me of European antisemitism - "people of the levant" who are successful in business. I mean there are differences because of historical power relationships, but there is something troubling about it. It's interesting you compare them with the Indian population in East Africa - we know what happened to them when Amin came to power
Thanks for the rest of your post. I don't disagree . Yes he made a speech that was dangerous to his career. I'd say that is the fault of the prevailing political discourse in the US rather than a fault of his wording. I don't believe people should self censor to try and fit into a box which is, in fact, racist in the first place. However, as you have pointed out, he seems to have made his name through doing precisely that within the US's discourse on racism at home.
I think that the phrase "from the river to the sea" originated with one of the early Zionists. Ben Gurion maybe, or someone like that. It's certainly not an invention and copyright of Hamas, as it is being presented. Calling for freedom from the river to the sea is actually an effective phrase, to be honest. It is clearly about both communities, about everyone in that geographical space
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Sorry for the late reply.
[QUOTE=ad hoc;1502980]Thanks for the information about the Lebanese immigrant community in West Africa. I had no idea that there was such a huge diaspora there. [quote]
The term Lebanese is somewhat misleading. Lebanon, Palastine and didn't exist at the time when many of their ancestors left. Additionally, many identified as Lebanese due to the negative connotations of Palestine.
The arguments against them trouble me somewhat though - in the same way that arguments about immigrants tend to do everywhere. The tone in this case reminds me of European antisemitism - "people of the levant" who are successful in business. I mean there are differences because of historical power relationships, but there is something troubling about it.
Nowadays, they are more into the construction and service industries like building and running hotels, shopping malls, high-end nightclubs etc.
It's interesting you compare them with the Indian population in East Africa - we know what happened to them when Amin came to power
Thanks for the rest of your post. I don't disagree . Yes he made a speech that was dangerous to his career. I'd say that is the fault of the prevailing political discourse in the US rather than a fault of his wording. I don't believe people should self censor to try and fit into a box which is, in fact, racist in the first place. However, as you have pointed out, he seems to have made his name through doing precisely that within the US's discourse on racism at home.
I think that the phrase "from the river to the sea" originated with one of the early Zionists. Ben Gurion maybe, or someone like that. It's certainly not an invention and copyright of Hamas, as it is being presented. Calling for freedom from the river to the sea is actually an effective phrase, to be honest. It is clearly about both communities, about everyone in that geographical space
I expect the rest will be fired next.
Angela Rye and Vann Jones.
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