Grenfell flats fire

[Nefertiti2]

Seven years before the report comes out

no prosecutions

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[Nefertiti2]

Oscar and Turner prizewinning filmmaker Steve McQueenmakes Film about Grenfell. Invites MP's and members of the House of Lords

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[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/khadljasays/status/1668699046205177856?t=bSKnK3IEPOiVy9NThkeqjQ&s=19

[Nefertiti2]

https://twitter.com/khadljasays/status/1668699046205177856?t=bSKnK3IEPOiVy9NThkeqjQ&s=19

I can't forget watching the tower burning and in the days after thinking there would at last be some response to the pain and fury and mourning across London

I can't forgive the cynical bastards in the press and the government who have managed the response to this crime so nothing has changed and no-one is held responsible for an entirely predictable case of multiple manslaughter.

[Flynnie]

Has anything at all happened other than flat owners being forced to pay tens of thousands to remove cladding they had no choice over?

[Lobachevsky]

The government regulations on building safety and fire safety are currently changing on an almost daily basis. to keep up you need to be a specialist in this.

there is a voluntary code of practice with developers.

there is a draft contract between HMG and developers which majors on Reasonable Endeavours.

this contract excludes flat owners effectively sitting above them.

landlords don't or can't understand the above.

it's often not clear who the Accountable Person or Principle Accountable Person will be.

the info required on each building is mostly unbeatable or expensive to find and make sense of.

Building safety plans on towers are required by October......but the managers of buildings are struggling because of the point above.

the personal info required is mired in concerns about a. data protection and b. expensevof keeping it up to date.


so in answer to your question. No.

[Lobachevsky]

I didnt mean unbeatable.... I meant very hard to get!

[blameless]

Sounds about right - introduce lots of new legislature so they're seen to be doing something, rather than holding anyone responsible for breaking the multiple laws that were already in place long before the fire.

[Nefertiti2]

Gary Younge Interview Chris Ofili about his Grenfell mural at Tate Britain

This preventable fire signalled the dominance in British life, and death, of the four horsemen of late-stage capitalism: inequality, austerity, deregulation and privatisation. Six years later, with the official inquiry still in progress and nobody yet held accountable, a body of artistic work is building in response. In the last five months alone there have been Steve McQueen’s film and Gillian Slovo’s play at the National Theatre, both titled Grenfell. What was it about tragedy, I ask Ofili, that has made it such a touchstone? “It was the direct by-product of a system,” he says. “And we have to ask ourselves ‘What set things up to allow these things to happen? Because human beings did this: there was no AI involved.”

[Ginger Yellow]

https://twitter.com/MattLismore/status/1723753823326376137#m

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/GrenfellUnited/status/1747636188368851305?t=Jkk1_dO4ypF7gJxkO0o1cw&s=19

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/melissasigodo/status/1753099142992142358?t=8bWfF__Vc8izo-Kbh0C4UQ&s=19

And still no justice for the families.

[Ginger Yellow]

Seems like a very similar situation in Valencia, tragically. I don't have a sense of whether other countries reviewed their cladding stock after Grenfell.

[Sporting]

"Esther Puchades, an industrial engineer who once inspected the building, said the fire had spread so rapidly because the block, which was completed in 2009, was covered with highly combustible polyurethane cladding.

When the material is heated, “it is like plastic and it ignites”, she said, adding that it was the first fire of its type in Spain but that others involving the material have been similarly destructive in the UK and China.

Faustino Yanguas, of the Valencia fire brigade, called for an investigation into the material used on the facade because it “was a factor that contributed a lot” to the rapid spread of the flames, which were also fanned by 40mph (65km/h) winds.

A 2007 promotional video for the building, which comprises two towers linked by what its developers described as a panoramic lift, highlighted the “innovative material” used to clad the building’s exterior, which it said had passed “rigorous quality checks”.

The president of the Valencia college of architects, Luis Sendra, said that when the block was built, “there weren’t restrictions on the types of cladding material, nor on the terrace furniture”. The design of the block also led to a chimney effect, he said.

European regulations on cladding materials were upgraded after the Grenfell disaster, and Puchades said polyurethane was no longer widely used in buildings without extra safety measures to offset its flammability."