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    Battle Royal in the NPS!

    Not all North American elections are eighteen month-long farces. No, up here in the Narco-Petro Superpower, we keep our farces down to a mercifully short five weeks. The Lizard King, Stephen Harper, will by all accounts be heading to the GG to seek a dissolution of the house tomorrow - projected election date is October 14.

    The left is splintered: the Greens, newly bolstered by an ex-Liberal MP declaring himself Green and thus making himself the party's first MP, are eating into the New Democrats' vote. This could help the centrist Liberals, who are running on an ambitious "Green Shift" platform, which suggests a large shift in taxation from income to carbon. But they've been beset with poor organization, a leader with a weak public persona, and fundraising problems. By contrast, the governing Tories (they have had a working minority for the past 2.5 years) are flush with cash and their leader and his entourage are very, very wily.

    All things being equal, we're likely to see another Tory minority: the Tories don't really think they can snatch a majority, but with a deteriorating economy and a few (fairly minor) scandals ready to bubble away once Parliament reconvenes, it's safer to go now than later.

    The wildcard is Quebec. After 40 years of more or less constantly being on the brink of fucking off, everyone's coming to the conclusion that this really isn't vaguely imminent. So, why exactly would they need those 50-odd Bloc Quebecois MPs in Ottawa to pave the way to sovereignty? Especially after their mother-party, the Parti Quebecois, got its ass handed to it in the last provincial election, finishing third after they belatedly realised that rural Quebec wasn't quite so enamoured of nationalism as to vote for an openly gay premier with a history of holding coke parties in his office as a cabinet minister. So after 15 years where the Bloc had a majority of seats in the province, things are up in the air: as many as 30 seats could change hands in the province this cycle - the Tories, who suckhole to the nationalists something fierce, are likeliest to gain, but some polls give the Liberals a good chance and the NDP have for the first time ever actually recruited themselves some francophone candidates with a chance of winning.

    I know that OTF, along with most of the Western world, is just brimming (nay, frothing) with excitement over this election, and so I will do my best to keep you all updated on developments as they occur all across our fair country, from Dildo, Newfoundland to St. Louis du Ha! Ha!, Quebec to Head-Smashed-in-Buffalo-Jump, Alberta. AdC, Linus and WoM will, I hope, be joining me to provide election analysis from their necks of the woods (BC, Quebec, and that semi-mythical land known as "Scarborough", respectively). I'm hoping to convince ace foreign correspondent Reed to throw in an imporessionistic piece or two during his flying visit to Toronto, which may well coincide with the first of our leaders' debates.

    For our other American cousins - watch how fast we count our votes. Three hours, max. You could learn a thing or two. For the rest of you: prepare to have the names of crucial swing seats seared into your mind...Mississauga West, Laval Centre, Vancouver-Sunshine Coast...a whole continent's worth of excitement awaits!

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    Five weeks and, what, $400 million dollars from now we'll be exactly where we are right now: Conservative minority. The upside is that it will mean the end of Dion, the Libs can hold a leadership convention, and someone who is not quite as dead from the ass up as Dion can take over the leadership and, after a respectable period (another two years or so) topple the Conservatives and put the Liberals back in the rightful place as rulers for life as the One True Party.

    Reporting from Scarborough, this is WOM.

    Fucking 'man on the street reporting'. Where's Gramsci when it's cold an rainy out, that's what I.....what...we're still on?

    Uh...back to you Antonio Gramsci.

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      AG: I'm soooo glad you've decided to be Peter Mansbridge this time. In the past I've vainly attempted to generate international excitement in what is, let's be honest, one of the most riveting pieces of recurring political theatre in the Northern Hemisphere. Sadly I failed miserably. Even the collapse of the last Liberal government under the weight of it's own corruption and hubris raised no more than a few polite questions from Reed. With equal feelings of regret and relief I gladly pass the flaming beavertail to your good self.

      From British California, this is Amor de Cosmos for BCBC News.

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        So a while back I had a look at your political landscape over there. Interesting, as always.

        You need to set the scene a bit more. Run us through your electoral system. Tell us where on earth this conservative party came from after the tories were totally wiped out not that long ago. All that, come on.

        Do you have any socialists who stand for parliament?

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          Back when I was paying more attention (for potential emigration reasons), the NDP used to have some members who considered them socialists, but they wouldn't have met your standard of ideological rigour. My sense is that they have become even more "mainstream" since then (though they are still significantly to the left of any US party).

          I am genuinely interested in this, especially as regards BC.

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            The NDP SC (Socialist Caucus) views itself as the successor to the Waffle of the 1960s and 1970s.
            Fantastic stuff.

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              As it goes, I'd even accept that there are socialists in the Labour Party over here. There clearly are in the NDP in Canada.

              I was wondering, though, if there were any independent socialist parties that stand in elections.

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                After a write up that that AG and WOM I'm quite looking forward to the rest of your reporting. Probably be more interesting than the tug of bore thats going on to your south.

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                  WornOldMotorbike wrote:
                  The upside is that it will mean the end of Dion...
                  That sounds like fantastic news. Except you probably mean some politician.

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                    #10
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                    Antonio-
                    So what country are you from?

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                      He is from Canadia, innit.

                      I am now an expert on all things Canadian politics and all things Canadian football. Just ask me.

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                        #12
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                        No.

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                          #13
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                          Oh pleeeeeeeeeeease

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                            #14
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                            I don't really know what to ask.

                            Who is a good Canadian footballer?
                            Who is a good Canadian politician?

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                              #15
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                              AG's nephew

                              No-one

                              See, I know all the answers.

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                                #16
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                                Jack Layton is like Ken Livingstone, but I don't think that's supposed to be a good thing.

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                                  #17
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                                  Who is a good Canadian footballer?

                                  DeRo The Hero. That is, Dwayne DeRosario, the Houston Dynamo midfielder.

                                  On politicians, you've got me there.

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                                    Elliott Godfrey is best, really. He's our number 9, but he takes corners. He has played U-21 for Canadia.

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                                      #19
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                                      His name is back to front.

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                                        #20
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                                        They do that a lot over there.

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                                          #21
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                                          Godfrey Elliott is a poncy name.

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                                            #22
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                                            My vote for current best Canadian Soccer player, who actually plays for Canada goes to Deportivo midfielder Julian De Guzman. AG may disagree

                                            Ton Ton needs to hit the books again if he thinks Jack Layton bears any resemblance to Ken Livingstone, be it aesthetic or political.

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                                              Blimey. Most NPS threads go instantly null, but I leave for a day and this one's going strong.

                                              I'm with imp on DeRo, I think (although I missed most of the last Gold Cup and didn't get to see Julian DeGuzman play). His brother at Feyenoord is ace but the bastard has pulled a Hargreaves and opted to represent someone else.

                                              The Layton = Livingstone comparison was mine at dinner last night, AdC. Maybe it's not a great comparison, but the iconoclast-frequently-running-off-at-the-mouth thing has always struck me.

                                              Short note on the NDP - It began life in the 30s as the co-operative commonwealth federation (CCF) as a populist party from the prairies with a strong religious element (its founding leader, JS Woodsworth, was a Methodist minister, as were many of the party's major figures until about the 80s). In 1961, it became the NDP after negotiations with the Canadian Labour Congress. In theory, this progressive farmer plus organized labour combination should have led to some kind of mainstream socialist party, but it never quite panned out: the existence of the Liberals never gave it enough space to the right to get real traction, plus its inability to build a base in Quebec meant it could never be taken seriously as a federal party. It took power in Saskatchewan in the 40s (and has been the majority party there for most of the time since then, although is currently in opposition), Manitoba in '69 (ditto, except they are on their third consecutive majority), won three elections in BC ('73, '91 and '96 and then a richly deserved hammering in '01), and one in Ontario which is best forgotten (not least by its then-leader Bob Rae, who has since switched to the Liberals, along with former BC NDP premier Ujjal Dosanjh).

                                              What, you say, gives with the party switching? Well, let's put it this way: in practice, the discipline of being in power tends to make provincial new democrats govern much the way the federal liberals do: there's not a lot of difference in practice, although there are some differences in style (my mother, who was in cabinet in Manitoba for four years, would vehemently disagree, but she's wrong.)

                                              Or, to switch it around, the federal party has no real prospectsfor power and thus can act muc more radically. The party's urban-hipster faction, in particular, periodically tries to create some kind of "new left" or "progressive politics" initiative that will speak more to the radical element in Canadian society which is more evident in interest group politics (animal rights, feminism, etc) than it is in electoral politics - although in recent years that demographic has more or less switched to the Greens.

                                              Put this another way: prairie NDP governments govern like a slightly less technocratic version New Labour, but without the bashing of organized Labour. The federal NDP would be a has a more "old Labour" geist only with no historical memory of being in power and no future prospects thereof, either.

                                              Good politicians in Canada? A lot fewer than their used to be. Former NDP SK premier Roy Romanow was great. I'm a big fan of Bob Rae, these days. Gary Doer (NDP - Manitoba) is the only provincial premier worth much, though Dalton McGuinty (Lib - Ontario) has a fair bit to recommend him, despite his speeches being one of the country's most potent sleep aids.

                                              For more, the Globe and Mail has launched its election mini-site, which is well worth a look.

                                              Signing off for now, this is Antonio Gramsci in London.

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                                                Damn, I forgot "AG's mum".

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                                                  On an maybe related note, I was doing some googling about Tommy Douglas, here of the CCF / NDP and mentioned in Michael Moore's Sicko, and it turns out that not only did he basically create the Canadian healthcare system and nationalise some industries and allow unions in the civil service, he was also Keifer Sutherland's granddad. How about that!

                                                  His daughter is Keifer's mum and Donald's wife, Shirley Douglas. What with her and Angela Lansbury, it seems firebrand moral socialist party leaders make for good fathers of actors.

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