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    The UK government is hilarious.

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      I think we quite possibly could be negotiating in bad faith.

      https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oposals-secret

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        Originally posted by Snake Plissken View Post
        I think we quite possibly could be negotiating in bad faith.

        https://www.theguardian.com/politics...oposals-secret
        Face it, there are no negotiations, merely UK postering.

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          Posturing is saying in the media "Give us what we want, you pooey bumhead".

          Negotiating is writing that down and giving it to Michel Barnier.

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            They can't negotiate because they don't have any coherent positions.

            The posturing about not wanting the working papers (or anything to else) to "leak" is really about not wanting the positions trashed immediately by MPs and media that "support" the government.

            Cummings is only interested in another election in which he can deploy his full range of dirty tricks. He has no more idea of (or interest in) the details of actually leaving than he had last time.

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              Racist sows wind, reaps whirlwind
              [URL]https://twitter.com/jdportes/status/1175063668951867392?s=21[/URL]

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                Aaargh!

                https://twitter.com/QuentinAries/status/1175065612906827778

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                  [URL]https://twitter.com/dsquareddigest/status/1175109972511924226?s=21[/URL]

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                    Originally posted by George C. View Post
                    Or he could just stop talking horse faeces.

                    Plus have a miniscule libertarian streak, so don't believe in 'Ignore Poster' and I am not a pompous assh*le.
                    [Pedant]
                    minuscule
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                      Good.

                      But, as Janik noted earlier, with that position it's hard to see how he can negotiate a "better" withdrawal agreement in good faith (even if such a thing were possible), and even harder to see how he could present it to the public as a reasonable option in any future referendum.

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                        A better one than the Conservatives did- piece of piss.

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                          The point is that offering the best deal possible against remain is the best possible way of showing the benefits of remaining.

                          And Corbyn as a Eurosceptic is far more likely to be trusted that that is the case than, say Peter Mandelson.

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                            This account of current government thinking strikes me as rather plausible

                            [URL="https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1175369487769620482?s=21"]https://twitter.com/alexwickham/status/1175369487769620482[/URL]

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                              At the end of a dismal week for the media, the Mail on Sunday say "hold my beer".. .

                              https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1175379503402627077?s=09

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                                Surely that is actionable and I see that he has instructed counsel

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                                  I really cannot believe that a national newspaper would be stupid enough to go ahead with this.

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                                    Who's going to stop them? IPSO?

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                                      Presumably, if anything happens to him, the editor and the journalist whose name is on the article could be done for conspiracy or incitement to commit crime. Especially given the knowledge that he has received death threats.

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                                        This was originally written in French, but has gone down a storm once translated into English.

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                                          Originally posted by Walt Flanagans Dog View Post
                                          At the end of a dismal week for the media, the Mail on Sunday say "hold my beer".. .

                                          https://twitter.com/JolyonMaugham/status/1175379503402627077?s=09

                                          Surely it's already in the public domain, probably.
                                          Difficult to keep any information private these days with all the computerised records everywhere.

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                                            The first half of this is a very good precis of where we are with the Supreme Court

                                            https://twitter.com/ftpodcasts/status/1175290209937842177

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                                              "remainiac lawyers"

                                              No 10 Spokesperson now indistinguishable from chanting Tommy Robinson supporter.

                                              [URL]https://twitter.com/jolyonmaugham/status/1175762055053414401?s=21[/URL]

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                                                Number 10 is completely in thrall to the forces that conceived, led and funded the materially misleading, lawbreaking and corrupt Leave EU campaign, which isn't particularly surprising given the virtual absence of serious attempt at holding that campaign responsible for its actions.

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                                                  [URL]https://twitter.com/benkentish/status/1175844135582015489?s=21[/URL]

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                                                    Hell yeah dude

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