The Brexit Thread

[Diable Rouge]

HMRC estimate potential max fac cost of £20 billion:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-politics-live

[sw2borshch]

Is that counting paying for all the extra penpushers that the nanny state loving Brexiters want to use to drown us all in red tape?

[Tubby Isaacs]

Even worse than nanny state. These "bureaucrats" will be asking awkward questions about tax.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Reassuring response from the Government.

Jessica Elgot
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@jessicaelgot
Downing Street rejects HMRC chief's assessment of customs models, says full details are still being worked on “therefore any speculation about implementation is just that." Says "work is ongoing, anything else is therefore hypothetical."

16:14 - 23 May 2018

Roughly translated- we've no idea, it could be more than £20bn.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Behind Telegraph paywall, but Matthew Goodwin has apparently gone a bit further down the Reece Dinsdale road. Look at Italy, eh? Not just us that's unhappy with this EU and immigration lark.

"Give me my marker. Tell me where I stand", he added.

[ursus arctos]

Was he invited to that lunch in the City with one of the Lega’s nuttiest nutters?

[Tubby Isaacs]

He was too busy duffing Wappers.

[E10 Rifle]

A sitcom/film/multi-series box set featuring contrarian well-paid hard-right 'opinion formers' from across the continent would be something I'd pay good money for. Imagine Taki, Guido, Fraser Nelson, Brendan O'Neill and the likes forming a motley crew giving it large in Vienna or Budapest until some local faces properly mug them off

[sw2borshch]

I doubt it Tubbs, all the people who are used to asking awkward questions about tax are leaving the department as it exits the big towns to hide in the bigger cities.

[Diable Rouge]

Popcorn time, as the CU and SM amendments return to the Commons in June:

https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalisl...33486057148416

https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalisl...36031718690817

[Tubby Isaacs]

A sitcom/film/multi-series box set featuring contrarian well-paid hard-right 'opinion formers' from across the continent would be something I'd pay good money for. Imagine Taki, Guido, Fraser Nelson, Brendan O'Neill and the likes forming a motley crew giving it large in Vienna or Budapest until some local faces properly mug them off

All coming together, one big firm for the World Cup.

[Lang Spoon]

Some cunt’s slashed Taki! ‘Av it!

[E10 Rifle]

Taki would be known simply as "The Greek" if they were a proper firm. And much bantz would follow from that

[Diable Rouge]

Corbyn is just as frustrating as May at this point - wants to avoid a hard Border, but will only go as far as an unspecified relationship with the Single Market, which is all rather nebulous.

[Flynnie]

Nah, he's really not, because he isn't in charge. It's really astonishing how utterly unprepared the Tories are.

He could use to be disabused of the notion that his as radical-as-Belgium-maybe social democratic programme is somehow incompatible with the single market though.

[Diable Rouge]

JRM possibly admitting defeat on the CU:

https://www.independent.co.uk/news/u...-a8367001.html

[Tubby Isaacs]

It's a select committee, and MPs tend to be sensible/compliant on those. Rees Mogg would have to set out some sort of plan if he dissented.

Doesn't mean he won't start talking grandstanding bollocks five minutes later in the media.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

all he's really saying is that they might have to stay in the customs union for a little bit because they have done nothing at all. It's not much of a concession

[ursus arctos]

The HMRC answer on the cost of MaxFac appears to have caught them out badly.

[Ginger Yellow]

all he's really saying is that they might have to stay in the customs union for a little bit because they have done nothing at all. It's not much of a concession

It is for JRM. He's been perfectly willing to ignore reality before.

[Tubby Isaacs]

He'll ignore what he's signed up to here, as well.

[Diable Rouge]

We're on the road to nowhere:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...official-warns

[Flynnie]

I was gorging on some FT Brexit podcasts the other day and it's astonishing how ill-prepared the UK is. Journalists, academics, lawyers, trade and union reps appearing are all basically saying the same variation of "We don't think they have planned for anything or have any idea really of what they want".

I know that isn't really news to anyone, but what surprised me is they feel exactly the same as us, despite it literally being their job to be clued in on a level us laymen can't hope to achieve.

[Levin]

Hahahahaha

The UK will just build it's own GPS system if they aren't allowed to play with Galileo.

[Etienne]

I like that the Guardian's lede is that Hammond has "warned" Brussels, as if it'll bother them in the slightest.