The Brexit Thread

[ad hoc]

AP's "mural industry" comment made me laugh out loud

[E10 Rifle]

Nadine Dorries comes in with another gem:

Total respect for the DUP. Hardened negotiators. After Good Friday/peace in NI and Irish politics in general - we are witnessing a master class in how it’s done.

That'd be the DUP that, er, opposed the Good Friday Agreement and wasn't involved in those negotiations.

Is there some sort of competition going on to prove who can talk the most shit about Ireland?

[anton pulisov]

UUP/DUP, whatever, it's all Irish innit.

[Ginger Yellow]

Dorries is going to win any talking shit competition, no matter the subject, I'd have thought.

[Duncan Gardner]

That'd be the DUP that, er, opposed the Good Friday Agreement and wasn't involved in those negotiations

DUP MP Jeffrey Donaldson was in the UUP negotiating team for the GFA. Arlene Foster was head of the party youth set-up at the time.

Without avoiding that various English hacks (Tory, UKIP and Labour) have revealed plenty of ignorance this week, I think we know the broad reasons for their bad brief.

A little diversion for you

https://www.onetouchfootball.com/sho...-Irish-History

[Tubby Isaacs]

AP's "mural industry" comment made me laugh out loud

A big smile from me too.

As the critics say, that one works "on a number of levels".

[E10 Rifle]

Fair dos. I didn't know of Foster's UUP youth background. Hard to imagine her having a youthful outlook on anything. I thought Donaldson was one of the more refusenik-ish of the UUP's top brass at the time?

[Duncan Gardner]

Is Gonzo back?

Yes, and determined to offer Nadine Dorries some competition.

[Duncan Gardner]

Fair dos. I didn't know of Foster's UUP youth background. Hard to imagine her having a youthful outlook on anything. I thought Donaldson was one of the more refusenik-ish of the UUP's top brass at the time?

JD was critical of the 1998 deal- but I imagine he'd say it would have been even worse without his input.

There seem to be quite a few 40-something men on here fascinated by AF's er, middle-agedness and related outlook

[seand]

Meanwhile, Bern and Copenhagen have offered advice to
the warring islanders. Switzerland has warned of a backlash if Northern Ireland is penalised but the Danes reassure that once the South concedes two or three times, their supporters will give up and go home

ROI playing the long game here methinks

[Duncan Gardner]

Of course. Not so much tiki-taka as tick-tock?

[E10 Rifle]

This is all exposing the contradictions and dysfunctionality of the United Kingdom much more than it is the EU at the moment.

[Duncan Gardner]

Everywhere has such quirks- it's just that the British media assumes we aren't interested in them.

[Diable Rouge]

So regaining sovereignty means becoming a "regulatory protectorate"!

https://mobile.twitter.com/DanielBof...47748603043840

[anton pulisov]

This is all exposing the contradictions and dysfunctionality of the United Kingdom much more than it is the EU at the moment.

Indeed. Yesterday the UK announced that they could not sign up for the solution tabled by the the UK.

[E10 Rifle]

I would imagine it would be easier for most EU countries, even with their own quicks and federalisms, to secede from the UK than the England-dominated amalgam of entities that is the UK.

[Nefertiti2]

"Arlene Foster says she has been told that Ireland preventing her getting text of deal.
Arlene Foster: "We are told that the Irish government prevented it coming to us."
RTE's Tommy Gorman: "Who told you that?"
Foster: "The British negotiating team"

[Toby Gymshorts]

Hahahahaha what an absolute shower of shite these people are.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I think the negotiations aren't going too badly, considering we didn't start doing them properly till about a week ago.

[Moonlight Shadow]

Tweeted very much the same as above by E10 just now, great minds etc;the UK as a union is simply not viable anymore, Brexit is highlighting this big time, much more than Indyref.

[Tubby Isaacs]

A soft Brexit is OK for the integrity of the UK.

[anton pulisov]

"Arlene Foster says she has been told that Ireland preventing her getting text of deal.
Arlene Foster: "We are told that the Irish government prevented it coming to us."
RTE's Tommy Gorman: "Who told you that?"
Foster: "The British negotiating team"

So what she is saying is that Her Majesty's Government in London made a decision not to share all the information with Westminster parties that are not in Her Majesty's Cabinet.

DUP upset with being ruled from London.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Good day to bury bad news?

It's kicking off about the Brexit impact studies. They apparently don't look at the impact.

And if this is true, DEXEU might as well be wound up.

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Labour MP says all the information in Brexit impact analysis is stuff sourced to select committee hearings and press releases...

May already got her preferred EU advisor into No. 10- Ollie Robbins, I see his name is, into Number 10. He sounds a bit too much like Ollie Reader.

[Ginger Yellow]

To be fair, Davis's line all along has been that there are no impact assessments.

[Nefertiti2]

"never interrupt your enemy when(s)he's making a mistake" Sympathetic analysis of Corbyn and Labour's position.

he has never definitely ruled out membership of the Single Market and the Customs Union (or at least something close it). As I recently reported, in his meeting with EU chief negotiator Michel Barnier in October, Corbyn "came across as being in favour, broadly, of staying in the Single Market and the Customs Union". Though Labour has stated that Free Movement will formally end (a position that satisfies Labour MPs in Leave constituencies), this does not mean that "free movement" will.