The Brexit Thread

[Tubby Isaacs]

Something for her to think about.

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UK, Survation poll:

LAB-S&D: 45% ↑
CON-ECR: 37% ↓
LDEM-ALDE: 6% ↓
UKIP-EFDD: 4%
SNP/PCY-G/EFA: 3%
Greens-G/EFA: 1%
3:51 pm - 2 Dec 2017

[Mr Beast]

Nigel Lawson looks really frail and ill. Fingers crossed.

[Diable Rouge]

Something for her to think about.

Also by the same company on Scottish independence:

Yes 47% (+1)
No 53% (-1)

[SouthdownRebel]

Good news, everyone

[Diable Rouge]

Good news, everyone

RTE revealing four Irish demands tonight:

1. Transition period for implementation of new arrangements.
2. GFA enshrined in future treaties.
3. Preservation of Common Travel Area.
4. Avoidance of hard Border, and if not, NI to implement rules of SM and CU.

[Flynnie]

And the existing special status of Irish citizens in the UK now appears to be at risk:

https://www.theguardian.com/politics...-in-uk-at-risk

This doesn’t pass the smell test for me. Irish citizens were using the NHS and going on the dole before 1973. Upon entry to the UK, they get settled status, which is beyond indefinite leave to remain. All these rights aren’t from the EU.

[Snake Plissken]

You have no idea how much May hates the foreigns. Removing their rights under sweeping “reforms” to immigration is precisely the sort of ”accident” she does.

We’re one step away from Johnson calling them all brickies and Farage will jump in with “terrorists”. Hannan already has publicly said things should go back to being like they were in 1915.

[anton pulisov]

This doesn’t pass the smell test for me. Irish citizens were using the NHS and going on the dole before 1973. Upon entry to the UK, they get settled status, which is beyond indefinite leave to remain. All these rights aren’t from the EU.

Yep, and the UK born children of a settled status parent are automatically considered British citizens upon birth. So basically any UK-born Irish citizen would definitely have nothing to worry about. Expect some ignorant Tory to point this out vis-a-vis Norn Iron.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Irish citizens were the fucking NHS before 1973. Two of my grandaunts were working for it on the first fucking day. Half the nurses in their hospitals were from Ireland.

[Duncan Gardner]

Talking of which, Question Time last night predictably featured a 20-minute Brexit discussion without a single mention of Ireland. As per.

How did you get on with the Irish History quiz?

[Diable Rouge]

The usually reliable Tony Connelly claims the UK has conceded there will be no "regulatory divergence" in NI, which, if true, would be a major victory for Dublin:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tconnelly...41775467986944

[Diable Rouge]

Even better, Faisal Islam stating that the wording has changed from "no divergence" to "full alignment"!

[Nefertiti2]

That presumably means that the European Court of Justice will hold sway over the DUP.

[anton pulisov]

So apparently our Minister for State for European Affairs is 31 year old Helen McEntee, who I had never heard of. "Ah, a new young female politician injecting some life into the Irish government", I thought to myself. Then I read she was elected five years ago in a special by-election to replace the deceased Shane McEntee.

You see, this is why we fought for our independence from centuries of monarchist rule.

[anton pulisov]

The usually reliable Tony Connelly claims the UK has conceded there will be no "regulatory divergence" in NI, which, if true, would be a major victory for Dublin:

https://mobile.twitter.com/tconnelly...41775467986944

The first ine a long line of many Hard Brexit bluffs to be called.

This was always the plan. Promise Hard Brexit and blame everyone else when it doesn't work.

[Nefertiti2]

from twitter

"effrey Donaldson, DUP chief whip, tells me on suggestion UK has agreed there will be no regulatory divergence on island of Ireland on single market/customs union post-Brexit: "That is not our understanding of the UK Government's position.""

[Diable Rouge]

On the divergence/alignment semantics:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrunoBrus...53872650276864

[Diable Rouge]

At this rate, Donald Tusk will soon be given the Freedom of Dublin:

https://mobile.twitter.com/eucopresi...63925482590208

[Diable Rouge]

Faisal Islam:

https://mobile.twitter.com/faisalisl...69278085599233

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

On the divergence/alignment semantics:

https://mobile.twitter.com/BrunoBrus...53872650276864

[Tubby Isaacs]

This all sounds great. Next up- Walloons show up and tell Boris Johnson no deal unless he smells the glove.

[Diable Rouge]

Sammy Wilson saying there's no deal agreed yet, but is he just saving face?

[Tubby Isaacs]

And Alex Tsipras mutters something about the Parthenon.

[Flynnie]

You have no idea how much May hates the foreigns. Removing their rights under sweeping “reforms” to immigration is precisely the sort of ”accident” she does.

We’re one step away from Johnson calling them all brickies and Farage will jump in with “terrorists”. Hannan already has publicly said things should go back to being like they were in 1915.

I'm a non-EU migrant, you think I have no fucking idea how much May hates the foreigns?

Irish citizens' rights are enshrined in law. May would have to repeal the Ireland Act. That isn't going to happen.

[Nefertiti2]

"Ominous comments from Arlene Foster: "We will not accept any form of regulatory divergence which separates NI economically or politically from the rest of the UK."

reminder the DUp who are claiming a veto with 36 percent of the vote in the North have no seats in border areas