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    A surplus (in the US favour) of more than USD 8 billion in 2017, though you wouldn't know that from 45's rants.

    His Mexico figure is also materially overstated, even before one understands that much of "Mexico's" exports are from US-owned manufacturers.

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      I wasn't expecting either accuracy or truth from the man.

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        Warren becomes the first serious contender to announce her candidacy.

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          It's time to take the vote off the over 65's.

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            Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
            Warren becomes the first serious contender to announce her candidacy.
            Even this far out I think we need a 2020 election thread. Is Trump going to expect renomination?

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              Absolutely

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                Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                Warren becomes the first serious contender to announce her candidacy.
                Will she be the first Native American nominee for one of the two main parties?

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                  Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
                  Even this far out I think we need a 2020 election thread. Is Trump going to expect renomination?
                  Expect? Certainly. Get? Almost certainly.

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                    Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                    Grim, isn't it? The whole thing is just a parlour game for those working within the institutions in Washington. Democrat and Republican.

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                      Sociopaths like to drink too.

                      And publicans need to make a living,

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                        Warren will be wasting her/our time.

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                          Originally posted by anton pulisov View Post
                          This can't be good for the US economy. Cadillacs, Lincolns too, Mercurys and Subarus
                          I see what you did there.

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                            Absolutely the worst rap in the history of music.

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                              https://twitter.com/ddale8/status/1080544047587094529?s=19

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                                Meh, that's Dubya level of comment... And they love Dubya now again in the media

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                                  The US right's complete and utter meltdown about the very existence of Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez is one of my favourite things at the moment.

                                  The fact that she's young, female, hispanic and has self-described as socialist has caused some kind of mental short-circuit to the extent that they seem to have even forgotten to complain about Nancy Pelosi because they're so focused on AOC.

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                                    It is a genuine gift to welcome the new year

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                                      The weirdest thing is that it's actually making me a bit of a fan.

                                      Up until a couple of weeks ago I was utterly bemused by the cult of AOC, had no idea why she was so popular - she'd won a very winnable primary in one of the more left-leaning districts in the country against an old-school centrist Democrat. It just wasn't a big deal.

                                      But every time the Fox&4Chan brigade get upset about something trivial, it increases her appeal and gives her very easy comebacks that make her look both charismatic and well-balanced.

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                                        Now she’s got Ann Coulter advocating for higher marginal tax rates and a wealth tax.

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                                          Well this shutdown (or shut down, according to the WH) should be fun. Threaten to keep Government closed for months or years? Take that anywhere near April 15 and you will have a pretty amazing way to piss off a lot of voters.

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                                            But he does seem like a guy so disconnected from reality and only connected to Fox News that he might not realise that public opinion is massively against him and that he has no chance.

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                                              Are these right wingers who post about her real? Or are they left wing activists pretending to be right wingers in a cunning double bluff. because this strategy of trying to demonize her by making her seem like great craic doesn't seem to make a whole heap of sense.

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                                                No, they are real. Fox is also obsessed about her.

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                                                  Hah, they won't stop until she's more popular than the Kardashians.

                                                  "She wants insane things like Free govt healthcare, and free college education, and tonight we have shocking 10 year old footage of her playing basketball in the park with her friends, and sinking 10 three pointers while wearing shorts. Warning not for the faint hearted."
                                                  Last edited by The Awesome Berbaslug!!!; 04-01-2019, 20:51.

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                                                    Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View Post
                                                    Are these right wingers who post about her real? Or are they left wing activists pretending to be right wingers in a cunning double bluff. because this strategy of trying to demonize her by making her seem like great craic doesn't seem to make a whole heap of sense.
                                                    I wondered exactly the same about tweet with the dancing video. Surely even the most wingnut right-winger would have known it would backfire? Also, the syntax didn’t quite seem unhinged enough.

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