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    God, that's depressing. She'll fuck over every woman in North Carolina because she wasn't applauded enough?

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      Never underestimate the power of a bruised ego, sadly.

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        The power of narcissism.

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          We are officially fucked:

          https://news.wgcu.org/2023-05-15/flo...ublic-colleges

          Nobody with a social conscience will want to study or work here. Businesses will leave in droves.

          Some universities will try to keep their DEI programs and find ways to get around censorship but I don't see how they can do so for very long.
          Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 16-05-2023, 11:25.

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            It would help immeasurably if the best gridiron players from Florida and Florida State announced that they were entering the transfer portal.

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              Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
              It would help immeasurably if the best gridiron players from Florida and Florida State announced that they were entering the transfer portal.
              I think it will take a little while for them to see how it's become a white-supremacist haven. Football players live in their own world.

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                Coach Prime should do some Tik Toks

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                  Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                  Businesses will leave in droves.
                  Doubting this very much.

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                    Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post

                    I think it will take a little while for them to see how it's become a white-supremacist haven. Football players live in their own world.
                    Well, to be more charitable, a lot of them are from Florida, and it’s a big move to leave your home.

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                      Originally posted by WOM View Post

                      Doubting this very much.
                      Some will, but a lot can't. Disney can't move Disneyworld.

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                        Originally posted by Flynnie View Post

                        Well, to be more charitable, a lot of them are from Florida, and it’s a big move to leave your home.
                        Could be a boost for Miami. It's private. It doesn't have to be racist. Downsides are that they're in the ACC and don't have much of a fanbase.

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                          I also don't see businesses leaving in droves, but it will be something that certain businesses consider when expanding.

                          There are already reports of law firms having difficulty recruiting at the top end of the market.

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                            It slightly less depressing news.

                            Today is actually a primary election day and local election day.

                            I already voted for school board and borough council and judges. I think both of the county judge candidates are fairly liberal, but I went with the guy who isn't white and seemed to know more about criminal law. I think the woman he's running against will win. That's fine.

                            I'm confident the council and school board will remain left of center, but we'll see how much.

                            Around here, at least, the progressives have made, ummm, progress using the tactics that the loons have used. These races are officially non-partisan, but candidates can band together to promote themselves as a "slate." They're still voted on separately, but it seems to help. Also, the turnout for these elections is minimal, so the winner will be whoever organize.

                            A lot of yard signs for this one. I hate yard signs. I think they're an environmental scourge. But if that many people went to the trouble of getting the sign, they'll vote.


                            Philadelphia is having its primary for mayor which is essentially the election.

                            The Enquirer has this cool thing that lets you mark it up in way that looks like pencil.
                            https://www.inquirer.com/politics/el...-20230404.html


                            Some sports-related issues on the ballot in a few places.
                            I think the fate of the 76ers Chinatown arena may hang in the balance. Getting torched by the Celtics on Sunday probably hurt their chances.


                            Also, the fate of the Arizona Coyotes is on the ballot in Tempe.
                            I have a feeling the public subsidies for the new project, which includes the arena, will pass. The pro-arena propaganda, funded by the developers, outspent the anti-handouts-for-billionaires lobby by a lot and, from what I could see, the anti forces focused way too much on how Alex Meruelo is unreliable. He is, but that's probably not in the top 5 reasons why local governments shouldn't give huge tax breaks to developers for this project (or any arena project).

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                              https://twitter.com/Taniel/status/1658616314062053376?t=WvHn46g_GDDIx85Z3lR7-w&s=19

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                                Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
                                God, that's depressing. She'll fuck over every woman in North Carolina because she wasn't applauded enough?
                                Cotham was the deciding vote in overriding the Governor's veto of the 12 week abortion ban

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                                  https://twitter.com/pblest/status/1658644370256457737?s=61&t=xvOireV8JOIS_CpbTtDBow

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                                    https://twitter.com/taniel/status/1658647775553224704?s=61&t=xvOireV8JOIS_CpbTtDBow

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                                      Not looking good for the Tempe arena.

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                                        Colorado Springs is astonishing. It’s still god bothering right wing crazytown in my head.

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                                          Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
                                          Colorado Springs is astonishing. It’s still god bothering right wing crazytown in my head.
                                          It has that element, but it’s much bigger than that now.

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                                            I know. I have friends there. But my head still associates it with the focus on the family style crazies

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                                              Back to Florida

                                              https://twitter.com/KatieCorkern/status/1658800243830300673?t=yoYiGKxOH5czUlp7JJSpHA&s=19

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                                                But it's not systemic racism because they'll let some token blacks in.

                                                The real Great Replacement will be blacks having to leave while rich whites move in.

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                                                  Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                                                  But it's not systemic racism because they'll let some token blacks in.

                                                  The real Great Replacement will be blacks having to leave while rich whites move in.
                                                  My understanding of the way these funding things work is that they starve public schools, but don't provide enough money to really fund proper private schools either.

                                                  So the only options will be - terrible public schools, terrible religious "schools," or fancy private schools (religious or not) that, even with the state subsidy, most people cannot afford.

                                                  It's not even about racism. It's beyond that. It's about destroying education full stop. It's like they're saying "Ok, now that I've created a society in which nobody who does not look like me and my family can survive, so what's next? Oh, I know, I'll create a society in which literally nobody who isn't me or my family can survive. And, you know, maybe we won't survive either, but that's ok, because we'll have owned the libs in the process and created a lot of shareholder value."

                                                  I'm not pro-violence or pro-civil unrest, but I'll be very worried if we don't see a bit more of it in Florida soon.
                                                  Last edited by Hot Pepsi; 17-05-2023, 18:56.

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                                                    https://twitter.com/JuddLegum/status/1659174426347184128

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