The Andrew formerly known as Prince (was: Jeffrey Epstein thread)

[Satchmo Distel]

Did Maxwell obtain sexual gratification from her role or was she in it for Epstein's approval and/or money?

[WOM]

Is she subject to mandatory minimums?

[Antepli Ejderha]

https://twitter.com/raza_hussain01/status/1476318914414010370?t=tB_t1A69YJRi5sw46j9ffw&s=19

I wonder what Rachel Johnson thinks now.

[Slightly Brown]

Bringing shame on her father’s good name…

[Antepli Ejderha]

What are her options now? Maxwell I mean, is some kind of plea bargain possible?

[Antepli Ejderha]

Bringing shame on her father’s good name…

Stanley the sex pest or Captain Bob the mossad agent and fraudster?

[ursus arctos]

Is she subject to mandatory minimums?

I'm not sure (this is a very complicated area of law, with very fine distinctions), but all five convictions are subject to the sentencing guidelines, with the cumulative maximum being well over 50 years (judges often don't sentence first time criminals to the maximum and may choose to have sentences run concurrently rather than consecutively.

[Slightly Brown]

Stanley the sex pest or Captain Bob the mossad agent and fraudster?

I only knew about the slippery-decked latter…who’s the former? Not BoJo’s handsy old man? My Debrett’s needs updating.

[ursus arctos]

What are her options now? Maxwell I mean, is some kind of plea bargain possible?

She will undoubtedly appeal the convictions.

She is still to be tried on two perjury counts and could conceivably plead guilty to those while providing information as to other crimes that the prosecution would find valuable. That would get her a lesser sentence on the perjury counts and perhaps a recommendation that the judge here sentence her to the lower end of the range set by the guidelines.

But even that lower range is close to her expected life span, and she resolutely resisted any such deals before now (something that the prosecutors will definitely hold against her in any future plea negotiations).

She is also significantly less valuable as a witness following the convictions than she would have been had she reached a plea deal on these charges, as those convictions and the evidence underlying them are manna to any defence lawyer trying to discredit her testimony and motives.

[Amor de Cosmos]

But even that lower range is close to her expected life span, and she resolutely resisted any such deals before now (something that the prosecutors will definitely hold against her in any future plea negotiations).

She is also significantly less valuable as a witness following the convictions than she would have been had she reached a plea deal on these charges, as those convictions and the evidence underlying them are manna to any defence lawyer trying to discredit her testimony and motives.

This seems to have been stunningly stupid or arrogant on her part. Surely her attorneys would have advised her of all this before the trial?

[ursus arctos]

Well, yes.

Though it is perfectly possible that she shopped around for lawyers until she found some who would tell her what she wanted to hear.

It is also the case that the crimes that she has now been convicted of were also "stunningly stupid and arrogant".

[Amor de Cosmos]

Well, yes.

Though it is perfectly possible that she shopped around for lawyers until she found some who would tell her what she wanted to hear.

It is also the case that the crimes that she has now been convicted of were also "stunningly stupid and arrogant".

I'd go for arrogant and despicable myself.

[ursus arctos]

Arrogance appears to be her defining characteristic

[Slightly Brown]

Arrogance appears to be her defining characteristic

I bet even now she doesn’t think she’s done anything wrong.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Does anyone know why the BBC just had alan Dershowitz on as an expert on the Maxwell case? I mean it's not like it didn't become immediately clear what his actual role was

[Lang Spoon]

All I want for next Christmas is that cunt in jail.

[Gangster Octopus]

I only knew about the slippery-decked latter…who’s the former? Not BoJo’s handsy old man?

Indeed it is.

[Gangster Octopus]

All I want for next Christmas is that cunt in jail.

Try and narrow that down a bit...

[Lang Spoon]

The Dersh for starters.

[Slightly Brown]

Does anyone know why the BBC just had alan Dershowitz on as an expert on the Maxwell case? I mean it's not like it didn't become immediately clear what his actual role was

Firsthand perspective? Did he mention that he’s kept his underpants on at all times for the last 20 years?

[ursus arctos]

More on that BBC interview

https://twitter.com/LouisStaples/status/1476322258410954752?s=20

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Firsthand perspective? Did he mention that he’s kept his underpants on at all times for the last 20 years?

looks at name of poster. thinks about joke, decides against it....

[Hot Pepsi]

All I want for next Christmas is that cunt in jail.

That would be a great day for America.

[Antepli Ejderha]

Someone is probably sweating over a pizza now.

[Patrick Thistle]

Found out today there are people who make it their mission to stick up for Prince Andrew on Twitter.