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    Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post

    Scotland is a third of the island of Britain, the island of Ireland a bit larger than Scotland. I'm not sure Mercator is over representing them that much at all.
    Surely not...

    Last edited by jdsx; 05-03-2023, 14:08. Reason: Edited to add the previous comment (as this is the start of a new page for me)

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      Hahaha the BBC bIaSeD mApS! I'd forgot about them.

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        Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post

        Scotland is a third of the island of Britain, the island of Ireland a bit larger than Scotland. I'm not sure Mercator is over representing them that much at all.
        I meant that the data that Mercator used is thought to have been supplied by a Scottish Catholic Priest called John Elder and the selection of places is both pro-Catholic and pro-Scottish. The later version of Ireland in the British library is (even) less accurate and take a colonial view of Ireland

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          I'm not sure what you mean by pro Catholic and pro Scottish? Were more Scottish touns listed than there should have been? Was Dunkeld represented as a heaving parish metropolis?

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            Some context here

            https://www.bl.uk/onlinegallery/ttp/...es19and20.html

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              Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
              I'm not sure what you mean by pro Catholic and pro Scottish? Were more Scottish touns listed than there should have been? Was Dunkeld represented as a heaving parish metropolis?
              you could just click the link you know. Thanks ursus arctos for helping out.

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                The article you never linked to. I did click the Irish one. But thanks ursus.

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                  Originally posted by Lang Spoon View Post
                  The article you never linked to. I did click the Irish one. But thanks ursus.
                  Apologies- forgotten what was on which page..

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                    So apparently I come from Motherham. Worth remembering.

                    Still it's not as good as Ripon becoming Kyppo...

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                      Excellent! I come from halfway between Wodftock and Scippyng northon.

                      Could Shakespeare really be from Stretford, though?

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                        How English local government would have been organised under the Redcliffe-Maud Report:

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                          The Wikipedia page on it has this gem:

                          The Rural District Councils Association was immediately opposed to the proposals which would see their members subsumed in much larger authorities. They started a national campaign with the slogan "Don't Vote for R.E. Mote" (with Mr R.E. Mote depicted as an insensitive bureaucrat), distributing material to all their members. The slogan was used on postal franking from the affected authorities. Swale Rural District Council was forced to opt out of the campaign due to the similarity of "R.E. Mote" with the local Conservative prospective parliamentary candidate R.D. Moate. By coincidence, Moate had moved the motion opposing Redcliffe-Maud at the Conservative Party conference

                          (Moate would later be one of John Major's "bastards").

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                            Shame that this image is not clearer. (Topical, as tomorrow is the day that Hungarians celebrate the 1848 revolution)
                            https://twitter.com/johnpaul_newman/status/1635647244752805888?s=20

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                              Originally posted by Walt Flanagans Dog View Post
                              The Wikipedia page on it has this gem:

                              The Rural District Councils Association was immediately opposed to the proposals which would see their members subsumed in much larger authorities. They started a national campaign with the slogan "Don't Vote for R.E. Mote" (with Mr R.E. Mote depicted as an insensitive bureaucrat), distributing material to all their members. The slogan was used on postal franking from the affected authorities. Swale Rural District Council was forced to opt out of the campaign due to the similarity of "R.E. Mote" with the local Conservative prospective parliamentary candidate R.D. Moate. By coincidence, Moate had moved the motion opposing Redcliffe-Maud at the Conservative Party conference

                              (Moate would later be one of John Major's "bastards").

                              Which reminds me of this: https://www.theboltonnews.co.uk/news...o-fire-expert/

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                                Originally posted by ad hoc View Post
                                Shame that this image is not clearer.]
                                A shame indeed, and yet the resolution there is quite superior to the versions available online from the University of Vienba of the German Digital Library.

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                                  Early 6th-century Britain:

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                                    Interesting melange of English, Welsh and Latin in the annotation.

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                                      I believe Elmet is wingco country

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                                        This is... bizarrely interesting. Hokkaido especially (that's before we get to the surprising location of New Zealand)

                                        https://twitter.com/xruiztru/status/1635374783939629057?s=20

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                                          Sakhalin too

                                          I wonder what there methodology was.

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                                            Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                            Sakhalin too

                                            I wonder what there methodology was.
                                            I think the key thing (and possibly not well named) is the "native" bit, which clearly refers to indigenous (hence, for example, the Americas being very different from Europe)

                                            I think in Japan there is a group called the Ainu?

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                                              Yes, but I had thought they were also indigenous to Sakhalin

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                                                Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                                Yes, but I had thought they were also indigenous to Sakhalin
                                                Wiki says
                                                The indigenous peoples of the island are the Ainu, Oroks, and Nivkhs, who are now present in very small numbers.
                                                which I guess explains the difference (I presume that the other two groups are less hairy than the Ainu)

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                                                  Obviously ridiculous Victorian beardoness has filtered done from hipsters to salt of the earth ubiquity in both Scotland and Ireland's young fellas, but what? I have Pan like legs but mere wispy down on me chest personally. I somehow doubt the English are naturally less hairy, esp as they've a higher proportion of darker haired folks.
                                                  Last edited by Lang Spoon; 15-03-2023, 16:44.

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                                                    Originally posted by ad hoc View Post

                                                    I think the key thing (and possibly not well named) is the "native" bit, which clearly refers to indigenous (hence, for example, the Americas being very different from Europe)

                                                    I think in Japan there is a group called the Ainu?
                                                    Thank you for pointing this out, because I missed it on first reading and was wondering whether they'd ever so much as looked at a Latin American man.

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