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    So, after 16 years of pretty much relentless excessive drinking I'm now trying to do something about it. I've now not had a drink for four days. This is the longest I've gone for over ten years and it feels fucking horrible. To borrow a phrase I heard used by Frank Skinner I've always been a "none or enough" drinker. It's usually been more enough than none and lately enough has been manifestly too much. I shied away from keeping any sort of drinking diary, knowing full well that it would make pretty hair-raising reading. Shameful reading, actually. Hair-raising makes it sound like some merry Peter O'Toole thing.

    "Alcoholic" is probably the word, although naturally I shy away from it. I mean, I've never ever had to have a livener first thing in the morning or anything like that. "Habitual" is probably more descriptive. Maybe even more accurate, but it's little more than a euphemism if I'm honest with myself.

    So, yeah, four days in and I feel like shit. A exhibition of all the milder symptoms of withdrawal, although I already look less unhealthy on the outside. But I'm likely to be a bit, shall we say, unpredictable for a while.

    So, apologies for that in advance.

    A good friend who's been through this tells me that the first fortnight is the worst. And that the month after that is the worst as well. But from there on it starts improving, apparently.

    Not really sure why I'm posting this. Probably because I'm kind of upping the ante, hoping that fear of public disgrace will succeed where unspoken regret and love of family has failed so far.

    No need for lots of public hugs and shit like that. Just be tolerant if I act even more of a cunt than usual.

    Cheers.

    #2
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    Best of luck.

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      #3
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      Generally speaking - and this is no exception - I find people unreasonably hard on themselves over drinking. I don't suppose that helps at all.

      Anyroad, good luck. It's a piece of piss.

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        #4
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        Good for you, PG.

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          #5
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          I feel almost embarassed to be sipping a glass of red wine whilst reading your post...Anyhow, good luck chap, you've taken one great big step by admitting your problem, I wish some of my friends would do the same...

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            #6
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            All the best. And maybe, don't be shy to get some help if you need it? you know, talking helps, and all that. Take care, anyway.

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              #7
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              If you're looking for non-alcoholic company, give me a shout. Pubs are piss-boring though, just to warn you.

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                #8
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                the first fortnight is the worst. And that the month after that is the worst as well. But from there on it starts improving, apparently.
                Yeah, that's probably about right. One of the things that makes it tough is everything else staying the same; if you could change your habits and live a more diverting and colourful existence for a month you probably wouldn't notice it so much.

                Having said that, abstaining did soon make things feel a lot more colourful and diverting to me. It's a weird, angsty trip at first (which is at least a change from the old routine); but, longer term, it's easy to forget what a self-contained experience drinking - social or otherwise - usually is: the good bits of the socialising are still there when you're sober, in my experience, you just don't have the downside. And you save a fucking fortune.

                Hang on, though: 16 years? You must have been a pretty virtuous teenager.

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                  #9
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                  Thanks, TonTon, that's very kind of you, but generally you only see me one or two to the good. Which isn't exactly the full picture.

                  Oddly enough, what crystallised this was noticing just how awful I felt two days ago after a couple of days off the sauce. Initially I just thought I was sickening for something, but a little rumination and an idle check of the actual symptoms of withdrawal suggest something else. Of course, as Jerome K Jerome brilliantly pointed out, looking at a list of symptoms is a sure way of discovering you have exactly the ailment in question whatever it may be. Be that as it may, a somber assessment of what I've been like for the last 16 years leaves no room for manoeuvre, incipient cold or no incipient cold.

                  And thanks are due, I suppose, to everyone for kind and encouraging things said, but else can we draw a line under that stuff please. Before long you'll all get like Steve Earle in The Wire and I'm really not sure I want that. In fact I'm certain I don't. Let's keep it practical, manly and gruff.

                  edit: I might add that those two days off the sauce weren't a policy decision or anything. I just didn't fancy a drink. Feeling so crap came as a complete surprise. Also a surprise is that I don't feel like a drink right now. I even went to the pub with the GLW last night and just had a couple of softs.

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                    #10
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                    Yeah I'm sure you know better than me, of course.

                    (Actually, of course, I'm nothing like sure, being a fantastically arrogant cunt, but let's pretend, ok?)

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                      #11
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                      Lucia Lanigan wrote:
                      Hang on, though: 16 years? You must have been a pretty virtuous teenager.
                      Yeah, pretty much. I mean I drank. All through University as well. I just didn't soak.

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                        #12
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                        Uni was probably the only time I really did soak. Living in halls, up for breakfast, back to bed, up to the union bar for opening time, a couple of lost afternoon hours, back to the union for evening opening, off at closing to some "club" for more beer until 2, then a curry, sometimes with more beer, then home to bed.

                        That's living all right!

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                          #13
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                          I should probably have titled this thread "Tell your stockbroker: BUY SHLOER". I'm practically bathing in the stuff.

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                            #14
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                            Mate, TonTon may be right, and you may be being hard on yourself, but I've lost one good mate to cirrhosis, and two would look like carelessness, so, you know, I agree it bears thinking about.

                            No Steve Earlishness I promise, but I do want to stress I'm as up for booze-free socialising as the other kind. Odd as that sounds.

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                              #15
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                              booze-free socialising
                              Cool. But what does that mean? I have no idea. Sitting in Starbucks or something?

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                                #16
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                                Good luck with that Purv. All the best - and speaking as one of a good number here who've done their fair share of hearty social drinking in your company.

                                I agree with TT that people can get too hard on themselves with drinking, but then it can creep on you, this sort of stuff. I mean I can manage a whole month off most years, but it doesn't mean there aren't other teams when I think - as I reach for a cheeky extra pint before kick-off or whatever - that this is a bit stupid and, well, pushing it a bit. So it's a good thing to take stock of so good luck with it all.

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                                  #17
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                                  Good luck, Purves. I envy you your resolve.

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                                    #18
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                                    Laser tag? Botanic gardens? Ice skating? Cinemas? I actually have no real idea either.

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                                      #19
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                                      Well, I've PM-ed you about something else which sort of fits.

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                                        #20
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                                        booze-free socialising - well yeah, it's tricky. I have spent a fair bit of time in coffee shops over recent years. But I reckon if you can get into the habit of not drinking while eating, then that's a massive boon.

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                                          #21
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                                          Go a to a nice tea-room and drink plenty of weird and wondeful brews. For a time my social evenings out were spent doing just that, very healthy part of my life that...

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                                            #22
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                                            Lyra wrote:
                                            Laser tag? Botanic gardens? Ice skating? Cinemas? I actually have no real idea either.
                                            Blimey, well, if you Muslims can't advise us, we're fucked.

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                                              #23
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                                              Well, good luck, PG. But, as has been said, don't be hard on yourself.

                                              I like a drink, but drink doesn't like me, it seems. I drink one night a week usually and never on a 'school night' - I simply wouldn't get up the next day. And I don't drink alot, either: 3 pints and I'm merry, 4 is my comfortable limit and any more than that and I'm in falling asleep/over territory.

                                              Last week, in my efforts to avoid trick-or-treaters, I went to pubs two nights in a row - Friday & Saturday - and boy, did I feel shit on Sunday!

                                              So... it's weird how some people can get acclimatised to alcohol and others can't. I always take with a pinch of salt these tales from blokes who claim to be able to drink over 10 pints in a night, though. That would probably kill me ...and there'd be no point in me leaving the toilet, either!

                                              Anyway, like I said, good luck but don't beat yourself up in any way.

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                                                #24
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                                                Very lapsed muslim our Lyra, I can vouch for that...

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                                                  #25
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                                                  Moonlight shadow wrote:
                                                  Very lapsed muslim our Lyra, I can vouch for that...
                                                  Hoo-ah!

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