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    #76
    They're all on drugs.

    Is this the athletics thread?

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      #77
      They're all on drugs.

      Ger, if you're looking for the World Championships thread, that's here: http://www.wsc.co.uk/forum-index/31-sport/1089039-there-ain-t-no-flags-on-the-athlete-s-rags

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        #78
        They're all on drugs.

        WADA's published results reveal ...

        That the three dodgiest Olympic sports (proportionately) are Weightlifting, Equestrianism and, er, Golf ...

        The latter two though are probably a couple of Irish horses and Dustin

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          #79
          They're all on drugs.

          Lots of rumours that WADA's next report, due on Monday, won't have those three top of the list.

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            #80
            They're all on drugs.

            Le Monde article (in French)

            The above appears to show that Coe has (or should have) been aware of the Russian doping cases since at least 2013.

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              #81
              They're all on drugs.

              That's insane omerta, if true. I mean, 2013 is a good year after the Armstrong allegations all started to stick; you'd think anyone with an ounce of intelligence might realise that repeating the mistakes UCI made with that one isn't the way forward. They really should have gone with Bubka...

              I know we've been over the vested interests in the Operación Puerto blood bags before, but apparently the Spanish courts will announce the results of the appeal over the decision to have them destroyed in January.

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                #82
                They're all on drugs.

                Deep NYT Dive into Russian Doping at Sochi

                In a dark-of-night operation, Russian antidoping experts and members of the intelligence services surreptitiously replaced urine samples tainted by performance-enhancing drugs with clean urine collected months earlier, somehow breaking into the supposedly tamper-proof bottles that are the standard at international competitions, Dr. Rodchenkov said. For hours each night, they worked in a shadow laboratory lit by a single lamp, passing bottles of urine through a hand-size hole in the wall, to be ready for testing the next day, he said.

                By the end of the Games, Dr. Rodchenkov estimated, as many as 100 dirty urine samples were expunged.

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                  #83
                  They're all on drugs.

                  Kevchenko wrote: I know we've been over the vested interests in the Operación Puerto blood bags before, but apparently the Spanish courts will announce the results of the appeal over the decision to have them destroyed in January.
                  Did this ever happen, btw?

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                    #84
                    They're all on drugs.

                    I don't think so.

                    Here's a piece from April suggesting the ruling could be three months away.

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                      #85
                      They're all on drugs.

                      Surprise tests at Rostov

                      FIFA drug testers arrived unannounced Thursday to collect samples from Russian soccer team FC Rostov amid suspicions of meldonium use during its surprise pursuit of the league title.

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                        #86
                        They're all on drugs.

                        ursus arctos wrote: Deep NYT Dive into Russian Doping at Sochi

                        In a dark-of-night operation, Russian antidoping experts and members of the intelligence services surreptitiously replaced urine samples tainted by performance-enhancing drugs with clean urine collected months earlier, somehow breaking into the supposedly tamper-proof bottles that are the standard at international competitions, Dr. Rodchenkov said. For hours each night, they worked in a shadow laboratory lit by a single lamp, passing bottles of urine through a hand-size hole in the wall, to be ready for testing the next day, he said.

                        By the end of the Games, Dr. Rodchenkov estimated, as many as 100 dirty urine samples were expunged.
                        I love that such a closely scrutinized regime could be undermined by swapping clean urine in when the lights were off.

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                          #87
                          They're all on drugs.

                          So it's 31 retrospective positive tests from Beijing 2008 now. Naturally Five Live framed this in terms of Team GB's men's relay team being upped to bronze. The GB sprinters said they were deeply suspicious at the time as the Russian's team time bore no resemblance to their individual or past team times.

                          Anna Chicherova appears to be the one grabbing the headlines.

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                            #88
                            They're all on drugs.

                            Janik wrote:
                            Originally posted by Kevchenko
                            I know we've been over the vested interests in the Operación Puerto blood bags before, but apparently the Spanish courts will announce the results of the appeal over the decision to have them destroyed in January.
                            Did this ever happen, btw?
                            Nope. (edit - I see UA already put the Sky source up some time ago)

                            However, June is the end of the statute of limitations and I think they would be destroyed then if nothing happens before it, so looks like we'll never get to find out if the rumours about other sports were true or not.

                            Here's a recent report on Operación Puerto, though you'll need to run it through a translator.

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                              #89
                              They're all on drugs.

                              Someone on here will be happy...

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                                #90
                                They're all on drugs.

                                Athletics needs to either legalise doping or just pack up. It's obvious that the limits of non-artificially aided human speed were established some time ago.

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                                  #91
                                  They're all on drugs.

                                  Gangster Octopus wrote: Someone on here will be happy...
                                  He only doped so that he could be as fast as the clean athletes who make up the rest of the Jamaican sprinting team.

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                                    #92
                                    They're all on drugs.

                                    It's only a matter of time, isn't it? just rescind every track medal from the last 4 Olympics, there wouldn't be too many innocents suffering.

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                                      #93
                                      They're all on drugs.

                                      Madrid testing lab suspended by WADA.

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                                        #94
                                        They're all on drugs.

                                        Hand over those blood bags

                                        Guessing that's the last we'll hear of them for a while, but you never know.

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                                          #95
                                          They're all on drugs.

                                          They've got to get a lick on, the statue of limitations expires... erm a few days ago, didn't it?

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                                            #96
                                            They're all on drugs.

                                            The article says "in June", though I (like you) thought it was earlier this month.

                                            Worth noting that Fuentes' conviction has been overturned as well, as has that of the Kelme team official.

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                                              #97
                                              They're all on drugs.

                                              Who wants a bet that crucial paperwork and maybe even a bag or two has 'disappeared' at some point in the last decade?

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                                                #98
                                                They're all on drugs.

                                                The surest of sure things.

                                                A Spanish sports expert I follow on Twitter has also said that the statute has run.

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                                                  #99
                                                  They're all on drugs.

                                                  Four-year ban for Rugby League player Nathan Darby.

                                                  Rugby Union and Rugby League players have accounted for 14 of the 19 bans given by UK Anti-Doping in the past 12 months.

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                                                    They're all on drugs.

                                                    WADA and UCI now have the Fuentes bags and are working on them. The five riders banned for their involvement were Ivan Basso, Jorg Jaschke, Michele Scarponi, Jan Ullrich and Alejandro Valverde.

                                                    Now we have to wait and see if any other names come out of the woodwork. Statute of limitations or not, if Armstrong can be stripped of past wins, so can anyone else.

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