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    #51
    https://twitter.com/krishgm/status/1641812061754650627?t=P-7kHMbI5jVIqFNX2Q6PjA&s=19

    This. Vaughan got away with it, others didn't but it's all about him.

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      #52
      I see Vaughan is in the Telegraph whining about how dreadful it is for him to have been cancelled. The utter shitbox.

      Cricket loves to indulge these people.

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        #53
        And some dreadful piece of nonsense in the guardian wanking over him as well. FFS.

        https://www.dumptheguardian.com/spor...s-england-days

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          #54
          A reminder of Vaughan's tweets:

          https://wisden.com/stories/vaughan-r...ou-lot-comment

          You'd think those tweets were consistent with the words he was alleged to have used while at Yorkshire. The Guardian's take OTOH seems to be that it was just part of a persona he adopted after retirement, which doesn't pass the Occam's Razor test.

          Boycott any broadcaster that employs him.

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            #55
            Originally posted by TonTon View Post
            And some dreadful piece of nonsense in the guardian wanking over him as well. FFS.

            https://www.dumptheguardian.com/spor...s-england-days
            That’s such a tone deaf piece. It really does say something about The Guardian that this was published.

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              #56
              It was in the Observer but still awful.

              He might have been a great England captain but he's still a racist.

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                #57
                Same-same. I tend to use "guardian-observer" to avoid any confusion. You could go for "the relevant day's flagship publication of the billionaire Scott Trust".

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                  #58
                  Vaughan's tactic was clearly to hone in on that specific he-said/she-said incident, knowing it would be the hardest to scientifically prove, though it sounds like a messily handled hearing tbh.

                  But as others have said, it's what's been proven and/or admitted that is much more significant - the scummy behaviour of Bresnan, Gale, Hoggard and co and the acknowledged racist culture of the club, as well as the racist hounding of Rafiq since, that has forced him to leave the country.

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                    #59
                    Why wasn't Yorkshire disbanded?

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                      #60
                      Originally posted by TonTon View Post
                      Why wasn't Yorkshire disbanded?
                      This. And stripped of Tests until meeting certain criteria.

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                        #61
                        Luther Burrell: RFU investigation finds player's racism claims true, say Newcastle Falcons - https://www.bbc.co.uk/sport/rugby-union/65155474

                        Not cricket I know but look at the sanctions. Nobody named and nothing bar some courses.

                        A disgrace.

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                          #62
                          Christ
                          https://wisden.com/stories/racism-in...cism-yorkshire
                          I think there was a lot of – I know people don’t like the word ‘banter’ – but I think there could have been a lot of banter in there about it, and I know people don’t like that.
                          Thankfully responded to quickly
                          https://twitter.com/ECB_cricket/status/1668171937388851200?s=20

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                            #63
                            Considering the context and nature of the issue Graves’ words here are moronic.

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                              #64
                              The guy's obviously a fucking halfwit.

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                                #65
                                I'm not so sure.

                                I think it is more likely that he has concluded that leaning into the "it was just banter" narrative is the best way for him to get the support within the cricket club and county to regain control.

                                Sadly, it is rather likely that he is right about that (though the ECB can thwart him).

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                                  #66
                                  The Yorkshire CCC response from player to fan has been a pretty consistent “we don’t see a problem, so why do you”.

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                                    #67
                                    Graves and the “real victims” have plentiful access to the usual media suspects who happily peddle their shit.

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                                      #68
                                      Originally posted by ursus arctos View Post
                                      I'm not so sure.

                                      I think it is more likely that he has concluded that leaning into the "it was just banter" narrative is the best way for him to get the support within the cricket club and county to regain control.

                                      Sadly, it is rather likely that he is right about that (though the ECB can thwart him).
                                      So it’s a moronic statement from anyone remotely in touch with the social and political climate of the last fifty years but it’ll play well with the Yorkshire cricket hierarchy and the county’s supporters?

                                      That is a pretty damning indictment of all concerned.

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                                        #69

                                        https://twitter.com/AzeemRafiq30/status/1673050317187940352?t=7GgfYE6JJeN8QEV_g34YLA&s=19

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                                          #70
                                          English cricket suffers from “widespread and deep-rooted” racism, sexism, elitism and class-based discrimination at all levels of the game and urgently needs reform, a landmark report has found.

                                          The 317-page report from the Independent Commission for Equity in Cricket (Icec), which drew on evidence from more than 4,000 players, coaches, administrators and fans, also urges the sport to also face up to the fact “that it’s not banter or just a few bad apples” causing the problems.
                                          https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...andmark-report

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                                            #71
                                            Typically strong from Liew

                                            https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20...m-rafiq-racism

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                                              #72
                                              Cricket? Racist and sexist? Say it ain't so!

                                              It's not surprising at all, but good on those reporting and good on the commission. It will be interesting to see where it goes.

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                                                #73
                                                Quelle surprise.

                                                Just another branch of exceptionalism tbf.

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                                                  #74
                                                  Here's Guardian writer David Hopps in 2008 minimizing racist abuse (Harbhajan calling Symonds a monkey) as no worse than Aussie sledging and then saying Harbhajan was the real victim:

                                                  https://www.theguardian.com/sport/20.../cricket.sport
                                                  Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 27-06-2023, 06:44.

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                                                    #75
                                                    ICEC report - Ten key recommendations of the ICEC report | ESPNcricinfo

                                                    These are mostly achievable, half of them you wonder why they don't exist already.

                                                    Toughest two are removing class barriers (I don't think that's possible but they should certainly be trying to reduce them) and equal pay, not so much at international level, where match fees and Hundred payments should be equalised immediately, but at the level below, as I don't think there is the money there unless men's pay is cut, which will obviously not be an easy sell.

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