Churchwise, Christmas is the big one for getting once a year punters in, especially pissed ones for midnight mass. The religious calendar does roll on from there. Boxing Day is St Stephen 's Day, the patron saint of altar servers, Jan 6th is Epiphany and there was something called Candlemas a couple of weeks later. This is just from memory, so G-Man or others may be stronger on the details. When I was an altar server as a child I had a forensic knowledge of quirks in the calendar and rotas that might throw up the chore of having to go to church four or five days in a row. Since I handed in my medal and later gave church the push full stop, there hasn't been the need to retain that.
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Never mind whether Die Hard is a Christmas film. Is Jingle Bells a Christmas song?
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Originally posted by Simon G View PostStay Another Day has bells at the end, but I'm not sure they were on the original version. I'm sure it had a different video originally as well. The Christmas theme to it seemed to be added to it once it looked like it was going to be number 1 at Xmas.
Of course I have literally nothing to back this up, except the hazy 24 year old memories from when I was 10.
We had this debate about Jingle Bells on OTF before, possibly on the old board. I appreciate that it wasn't originally written with Christmas in mind, but, with references to snow, bells and sleighs, it was never likely to escape its modern association.
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Originally posted by G-Man View PostAre you suggesting that the feast of All Saints, instituted in Rome in the 700s by the pope, was based on a Celtic tradition in Ireland? I'm all for national pride, but I fear you might be overestimating the international influence of Irish culture on medieval Europe. Or are you saying that pagan practices were enculturated into religious practices? In which case you are obviously correct.
No G-Man, I was saying the Pagan, “Celtic” nature of Halloweeen is massively overstated. A lot of the supposedly pre Christian traditions associated with it are from the very Christian Middle Ages, not some mythical Druidic past.
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Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostNo G-Man, I was saying the Pagan, “Celtic” nature of Halloweeen is massively overstated. A lot of the supposedly pre Christian traditions associated with it are from the very Christian Middle Ages, not some mythical Druidic past.
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Originally posted by Amor de Cosmos View PostIn other festive musical news the CBC bigwigs have suggested removing Baby it's Cold Outside from its Christmas playlists, as it's sexually coercive.
But there are many more coercive and sexist tracks played on radio daily; and the CBC attitude is imposing today's concerns on to a song that is clearly from a certain time and place without allowing listeners to be adults.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 08-12-2018, 20:43.
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Yup.
This line was cited specifically:
The neighbors might think - Baby, it's bad out there
Say, what's in this drink? - No cabs to be had out there
I wish I knew how - Your eyes are like starlight now
To break this spell - I'll take your hat, your hair looks swell
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Not sure if this is a widely known fact, but I discovered it today: Lennon's Merry Xmas (War Is Over) melody is lifted from this Peter, Paul and Mary arrangement of an 18th century folk song about a racehorse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXdQB-mR4tg
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Originally posted by Prester John View PostI agree, but I was merely doing my duty.
Hateful caterpillar brow cunt. When his daughter was a Glenda Gilson not really a model type model in the tabloids every fucking week in the naughties, that was when Ireland truly deserved the disaster of a massive recession. I’m shocked, fucking shocked he’s got a UUP politician as a relative. Hope his castle burns down. See how yr healing hands get on then ya dirty West Brit prick. Cunt is a disgrace to fellow dirty prods.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 09-12-2018, 03:29.
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostNot sure if this is a widely known fact, but I discovered it today: Lennon's Merry Xmas (War Is Over) melody is lifted from this Peter, Paul and Mary arrangement of an 18th century folk song about a racehorse:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hXdQB-mR4tg
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"Christmas" is just a bundle of cultural appropriations. From Saturnalia to German tree religions to Odinist Yule Logs (we even kept the Viking "Jul" in the name). So pretty much anything can be "Christmassy" - the important thing is whether it makes you feel Christmassy.
(As an aside, G-Man's comment that the retconned date of the annunciation shows the accuracy of Dec 25 as Jesus' birthday gave me my first LOL of the day.)
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Originally posted by Lang Spoon View PostFuck man I’ve got the De Burgh and his Spaceman stuck in my napper now. Earworm from Hades. It’ll be almost impossible to dislodge the horrible eyebrows cunt. Chris definitely seems the sort of prick who’d welcome Brexit for “shaking things up” reasons, despite not being fuckin British.
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I'm no fan of his music, but I've never quite understood the levels of vitriol aimed in his direction. And neither does he, as he explained on his Desert Island Discs appearance (which I have listened to).
Anybody care to take this on and outline a neat summary of why he's disliked so much?
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Any schoolyard versions? This was the version in Barnsley schools, mid-70s:
Jingle Bells
Batman smells
Robin flew away
Various lyrical variations. Apparently first appeared in Xmas 1966 in the US in the wake of the debut of the Adam West TV series:
http://www.cracked.com/blog/the-secr...batman-smells/
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Other parodies from the dim and distant past
We three kings of orient are
One in a taxi, one in a car
One on a scooter beeping his hooter
He didn't get very far.
While Shepherds washed their socks by night,
All seated round the tub,
The Angel of the the Lord came down,
And gave their socks a scrub.
And when their socks were squeaky clean,
And sparkling like a gem,
The Shepherds put them on again,
And walked to Bethlehem.
And when they got to Bethlehem,
All looking nice and neat,
The Christ child said you've got nice socks,
But next time wash your feet.
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Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post(As an aside, G-Man's comment that the retconned date of the annunciation shows the accuracy of Dec 25 as Jesus' birthday gave me my first LOL of the day.)
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