I was listening to an entire album of some interesting atmospheric kind of ambient stuff on an American college radio station the other week. Thought it was quite good and I was curious who it was. DJ said, "You've been listening to Nine Inch Nails." I nearly fell off my chair. Nine Inch Nails, the 90s nu-metal shite? Apparently so.
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Originally posted by anton pulisov View PostI was listening to an entire album of some interesting atmospheric kind of ambient stuff on an American college radio station the other week. Thought it was quite good and I was curious who it was. DJ said, "You've been listening to Nine Inch Nails." I nearly fell off my chair. Nine Inch Nails, the 90s nu-metal shite? Apparently so.
I believe he/they are generally regarded as "Industrial," especially the earlier hits. Nu-Metal generally implies some element of hip-hop or funk. I don't think NIN ever really did that.
But it is relevant to this thread in that Trent Reznor has now shifted very successfully into doing film scores, often with Atticus Ross. They've won two Oscars (Social Network and Soul) and an Emmy (Watchmen).
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The 'completely' of the thread title makes this quite a hard bar to pass. As HP notes above, Nine Inch Nails moving from doomy industrial songs to ambient mood music isn't so unlikely.
There's quite a big move between the abrasive bedroom experimentation of Cabaret Voltaire in the mid-70s
to the smooth Chicago house of the late 1980s
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Status Quo: Psychedelic merchants in the '60s; boogie rockers in the '70s.
Bee Gees: Songwriting popsters in the '60s and early '70s; disco merchants as of 1975.
Kool & The Gang: Serious funksters in the '70s; disco-popsters and soul balladeers in the '80s.
And then there were The Beatles...
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Bee Gees also had a psychedelic prog phase with their album 'Odessa'.
Norman Cook's move from The Housemartins to dance music warrants inclusion.
The Shamen were originally psychedelic indie poppers who sounded nothing like 'Ebeneezer Goode'.
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Herbie Hancock probably wins this one - he hasn't so much changed genres as moved though and occasionally returned to a good dozen of them since the early 60's. If you just compare 'Maiden Voyage' to 'Rockit', that's some transition.
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Isley Brothers: from gospel to R&B to psychedelic soul to smooth soul to a collaboration with Beyonce.
But a lot of acts with that background had to adapt to big changes in the predominant genre of black music or become a nostalgia act. Commodores, Earth Wind & Fire, Bar-Kays.
What is truly revolutionary is to switch genres for entirely self-driven artistic reasons, like John Coltrane going from hard bop to modal jazz to free jazz, even when commercially very risky. The Beatles were perhaps taking a risk but were hardly in danger of falling off the charts like the Beach Boys did.
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If individual artists are permitted then Midge Ure is a great candidate, from teen pop with Slik, punk with The Rich Kids onto electro with Ultravox. Who themselves morphed into something a lot more stadiumy.
And Mick Hucknall, from the punkish Frantic Elevators to the, well, to Simply Red.
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Nine Inch Nails were/are primarily an industrial rock act who predated nu-metal by about a dozen years.
I’ll just go with some of the examples I used when we did this last time:
Roxy Music
Glam artisans to lounge-lizardy pop sophisticates.
Human League
Kraftwerk-inspired synth outsiders to sparkly, all-conquering chart royalty.
The Beloved
Peel-favoured guitar also-rans to trip-hoppy Top 40-botherers.
David Bowie
Well, you know…
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostThe Beatles were perhaps taking a risk but were hardly in danger of falling off the charts like the Beach Boys did.
Between "I Want To Hold Your Hand" topping the charts and "Strawberry Fields" was three years. Even if three years then culturally lasted longer than they do today, and even given that "Strawberry Fields" was just a stage in an evolution rather than an abrupt re-invention, that is a remarkable change of genre (within the broader pop genre, of course).
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That's an interesting point about The Beatles not risking their chart position. I'd argue that at that time the idea of making a living from being a rock star was a lot vaguer and uncertain than it was now. There must have been a very strong push to do something sensible and expected, or they might have reasonably expected that in five years time they would be out of a job again, even if they'd all managed to buy nice houses in the country
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I would argue that with Genesis the biggest transition (which had already begun to take shape post-Gabriel) occurred with the departure of Steve Hackett. Their subsequent material was more pop/AOR than Prog, and there was very little that bore even a passing resemblance to the early-70's albums. When they occasionally played a few of the old songs live it was only as a sop to the diehard fans of a certain age, and Tony Banks in particular doesn't seem to have a great deal of love for the Gabriel era.
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Originally posted by Sits View PostIf individual artists are permitted then Midge Ure is a great candidate, from teen pop with Slik, punk with The Rich Kids onto electro with Ultravox. Who themselves morphed into something a lot more stadiumy.
And Mick Hucknall, from the punkish Frantic Elevators to the, well, to Simply Red.
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Ministry is a good example, first couple of releases where an attempt at Howard Jones synth-pop. Then came the Adrian Sherwood produced Twitch then the the progression to industrial metal. Al Jourgensen also collaborated with Ian MacKaye (Pailhead) and Jello Biafra (Lard).
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