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    Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

    Can someone explain Nef's clue?

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      Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

      To make "starsky" from "starship" you have to replace the letters HIP. The clue's a bit terse, perhaps.

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        Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

        Ah. I'd spotted that, but was obviously trying to read too much into it. Ta.

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          Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

          I thought it was pretty good, myself.

          You could interpret the replacement of Starship with Starsky as another kind of hip replacement the Hippy energy of the counterculture seventies replaced by the Californian police show.

          But even without that surely you have everything you need. The word is clued, as is the definition. What more do you want?

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            Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

            nefertiti wrote:
            I thought it was pretty good, myself.

            You could interpret the replacement of Starship with Starsky as another kind of hip replacement the Hippy energy of the counterculture seventies replaced by the Californian police show.

            But even without that surely you have everything you need. The word is clued, as is the definition. What more do you want?
            Oh. I'm not denying that once it's been pointed out - just that I couldn't work it out, even when the answer was there.

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              Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

              Guy Potger wrote:
              nefertiti wrote:
              I thought it was pretty good, myself.

              You could interpret the replacement of Starship with Starsky as another kind of hip replacement the Hippy energy of the counterculture seventies replaced by the Californian police show.

              But even without that surely you have everything you need. The word is clued, as is the definition. What more do you want?
              Oh. I'm not denying that once it's been pointed out - just that I couldn't work it out, even when the answer was there.
              Not responding to you- more to Andy's "bit terse, perhaps" which continued a general confusion about what is deemed to be a good clue, what's too clever, and what's too prolix.

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                Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                Must admit I'm stumped by Andy's too.

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                  Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                  Nef, are you soliciting opinions on your clue?

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                    Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                    yes. Is it unfair, too terse, or otherwise insufficient, too clever? if so what would be a better one using the stars(hip) replacement notion or is the notion iteself fundamentally flawed?

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                      Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                      OK, well, to be honest then, I think it's a bit flawed, yeah. I don't think the wordplay's really precise enough (the "ky" in Starsky just sort of arrives from nowhere and doesn't do anything), and I can't really make sense of the surface reading (Starship Starsky? What's that?)

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                        Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                        My terse "a bit terse" comment meant that I'd probably given more pointers to what the solver was meant to do if I'd been writing the clue, not that it was a bad or unfair. If I were to be really nitpicky, I'd say that "starship starsky" doesn't hold a clue about its being the "operation" - that's at best implied. So speaking personally, I'd at least add that hint by saying something like "starship to starsky".

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                          Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                          Would a hint or two for mine be welcome at this juncture?

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                            Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                            I appreciate your honesty. We're really talking about aesthetics here, aren't we, as we might be on the music or the books pages? That's to say I can't see a flaw in the clue (as I could recognise in my "Extort ex-trot" clue of a few examples back). We both admire The Wire. Here we differ.

                            Myself, I prefer that kind of cluing to the more pedantic "inside" "back" type clues stuffed with codifications and abbreviations. Occasionally what I'm trying to do comes off. Sometimes it doesn't.

                            For me it's enough that "Starship Starsky" is (I think) a rather elegant example of a hip replacement- and i don't think it would have been improved with a reference to KY jelly-which I contemplated. Perhaps it should have been punctuated differently- or "Starship becomes Starsky" which I also contemplated. But that would have made it much easier - and much less elegant ( in my eyes).

                            And yes a clue would be great, thanks.

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                              Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                              OK - "screwed" can also mean "fucked".

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                                Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                Or "shagged".

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                                  Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

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                                    Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                    Gorgeous woman and mean rabbi leaving Brokeback Mountain rerun (8)

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                                      Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                      Knockout, in the style of a native of the Bush (5)

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                                        Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                        Knockout, in a manner Irish, dazed.

                                        (6, 6)

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                                          Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                          Koala cult reefs broken up for decoration (3-4,7)

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                                            Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                            Most diligent like Hardy Oak-leaf cluster arrangement (11)

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                                              Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                              Sometime carefullest rag- one worth waiting for? (8)

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                                                Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                                Estragon, the Franco-German, crushed underfoot (9)

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                                                  Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                                  estragon, one of four penalties for foreign grasses

                                                  (5, 6)

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                                                    Friday Cryptic Crossword Game

                                                    Cep a l'estragon served in sports arena? Quite the contrary! (8)

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