Off field antics tonight

[Ray de Galles]

[https://twitter.com/KyleJGlen/status/1414294866704617486

That is a set of fans storming one of the disabled entrance doors that are next to every set of turnstiles. I saw it happen at least four times tonight There were hundreds if not thousands of feral scumbags who had got through the external cordon of covid and ticket checks by forcing their way through behind people with tickets or just stormed a barrier.

Hundreds of them hammered away at the disabled doors until they gave way and were met with a handful of stewards. At least two of the people I saw charging the gate had kids on their shoulders who looked around five years old.

Add to that people trying to force open the turnstiles, or trying to use any QR code to activate them, stealing phones to try and use the tickets or squeezing in with genuine ticket holders. Then factor in that the Italian section was stormed from outside three times during the game and Italian fans who had tickets for their sections but who found themselves surrounded by English and were fought or intimidated in to jumping across the tarpaulin dividers to the rest of their fans for their own safety

Wembley should never get another tournament final ever again, neither should London or England really. Tonight was an absolute shambles and disgrace. The staffing, policing, preparedness and security were all woeful.

[Ray de Galles]

https://twitter.com/michelleowen7/status/1414268353296965637?s=21

[Ray de Galles]

https://twitter.com/michelleowen7/status/1414364162680033283?s=21

[Cesar Rodriguez]

That is a set of fans storming one of the disabled entrance doors that are next to every set of turnstiles. I saw it happen at least four times tonight There were hundreds if not thousands of feral scumbags who had got through the external cordon of covid and ticket checks by forcing their way through behind people with tickets or just stormed a barrier.

Hundreds of them hammered away at the disabled doors until they gave way and were met with a handful of stewards. At least two of the people I saw charging the gate had kids on their shoulders who looked around five years old.

Add to that people trying to force open the turnstiles, or trying to use any QR code to activate them, stealing phones to try and use the tickets or squeezing in with genuine ticket holders. Then factor in that the Italian section was stormed from outside three times during the game and Italian fans who had tickets for their sections but who found themselves surrounded by English and were fought or intimidated in to jumping across the tarpaulin dividers to the rest of their fans for their own safety

Wembley should never get another tournament final ever again, neither should London or England really. Tonight was an absolute shambles and disgrace. The staffing, policing, preparedness and security were all woeful.

Christ that is depressing to read and that was sickening to watch.

Its just so galling that these bastards give the rest of us a bad name.

[Third rate Leszno]

Tonight was an absolute shambles and disgrace. The staffing, policing, preparedness and security were all woeful.

Absolutely right. Biggest game for 55 years and really, they can't predict that every entitled lairy cunt for miles around is going to want to be part of it and after a few beers and some coke will try their hand at getting in? We've rightly pointed the finger at other countries who've hosted shambolic finals and big games but (as with so many other problematic things) we should probably examine our own back yard before doing so.

[EIM]

Tickets were €300, €600 and €1000 each last night. England fans weren't the only ones taking the piss.

[Ray de Galles]

They were the only ones punching minimum wage temp staff to get in though.

[anton pulisov]

This confirms why I'd never go to a match involving England.

[Ray de Galles]

https://twitter.com/migueldelaney/status/1414495489752510467?s=21

[Guy Profumo]

Any more updates on the vacancy news this morning?

[Bizarre Löw Triangle]

https://twitter.com/GranadaReports/status/1414486585198981122?s=19

[ursus arctos]

A number of continental commentators are suggesting that this should disqualify England from hosting major tournaments for the near to medium term.

[Patrick Thistle]

Tickets were €300, €600 and €1000 each last night. England fans weren't the only ones taking the piss.

I feel like this is an odd and uncharacteristic take

[DCI Harry Batt]

Really? It might be odd, that's a matter of opinion obvs, but uncharacteristic?

[EIM]

I don't blame anyone who tried to get in without a ticket. I think it's appalling that minimum wage workers were assaulted. I think the minimum wage workers should either be paid a lot more money to intervene in the way they did, or just not bother. I think the England fans chanting "pay your fucking money" and assaulting people who jibbed in are awful. I don't think this is either uncharacteristic or odd.

[EIM]

Seems to me the police decided that the best way to deal with numbers that large was to leave them to it, and that was probably wise. The contract with the candle lit vigil is obviously stark, but the police have been bullies for years and years now and only ever move in if they have the numbers. Awful wankers.

[Patrick Thistle]

Well, okay. Does that logic apply everywhere? Like if I thought a pub was overcharging and decided to harass staff until I got my drinks for free?

[EIM]

Well, okay. Does that logic apply everywhere? Like if I thought a pub was overcharging and decided to harass staff until I got my drinks for free?

I'd probably go to a different pub first, but sure. If someone is charging a grand for a pint, go wild.

[Patrick Thistle]

I'd probably go to a different pub first, but sure. If someone is charging a grand for a pint, go wild.

They had options. It was on free to air TV. They chose to "go wild".

[EIM]

They had options. It was on free to air TV. They chose to "go wild".

So this inclusive and representative England team are inclusive and representative but only to those lucky enough to be able to afford a couple of hundred quid on a ticket? Sound.

There's kids growing up in sight of Wembley whose only chance of ever getting in the ground is through an act of charity from Raheem Sterling or by becoming a professional footballer themselves. That's fundamentally wrong.

I'm not naive enough to think that everyone who rushed the gates falls into this category, but nor am I overly arsed by that.

Go and watch it on telly. Deary me.

[Patrick Thistle]

I don't see this as a triumph in the class struggle or a direct action for social justice. That's a very positive take.

[DCI Harry Batt]

I bet Eric's is wishing he hadn't claimed it was a triumph in the class struggle now.

[ooh aah]

A number of continental commentators are suggesting that this should disqualify England from hosting major tournaments for the near to medium term.

Well in effect they've just hosted one, so they can't complain, but yes, it definitely should.

[EIM]

I don't see this as a triumph in the class struggle or a direct action for social justice. That's a very positive take.

I'm not sure I see it like that either. But it's certainly why I don't blame anyone for trying their luck. I consider 600 quid for a ticket theft, and I think excluding a large percentage of the population from a game governing bodies try to sell as "theirs" is absolutely disgusting.

[Jah Womble]

Let’s face it, English fans can’t even do hooliganism well. It’s all attacking children, breaking down disabled entrances and getting your arse out in public. If we had proper ultras, then the wider football community might respect us more.

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