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[Borracho]

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RobM wrote:

James Traynor is in fine form here.

We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation

With some of this lot, "prolonged and severe provocation" could mean almost anything. Losing the match, for instance. Or an ex-Celtic player scoring two of the opposition's goals.

Or playing a team in green & white on a green pitch?

And someone told me Traynor is an Airdrie fan?

Traynor left Ibrox two or three years ago didn't he? Not sure but I don't think he's there anymore.

You're quite right, a quick check reveals he left them in November 2013. My mistake.

He is now a PR man.

[The Red Max]

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Ray de Galles wrote: There are tweets being unearthed about his support of Celtic and supposed sympathies for the IRA.

I had recently though that Barton was sorting himself out but I'm not sure a sojourn in Glasgow is the best thing for him.

Joey Barton is just a rent-a-quote Twitter gobshite.
I'm not sure he even thinks about what he writes, never mind actually believing the substance of his inane utterances.

[Borracho]

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As for Joey Barton, it reminds me of the time when Alex McLeish signed Kevin Muscat, to everyone's horror.

But Eck then proceeded to use him very sparingly, and never picked him at all for any of the derbies. Thank fuck. He'd probably have tried to behead Henrik Larsson or something.

[blameless]

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Muscat then proceeded to ruin his tough guy image by collapsing in a heap holding the back of his head after Gerry Britton accidentally brushed his cheek with his fingers (Britton had thrown up his hands in frustration while protesting another fuck-up by Mike McCurry).

[The Red Max]

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Aye, you'd never have caught big Doug Rougvie carrying on like a big jessie!

Happy birthday big man - 60 today.
Yup, you heard me - sixty!

[Nocturnal Submission]

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The Red Max wrote: Aye, you'd never have caught big Doug Rougvie carrying on like a big jessie!

Happy birthday big man - 60 today.
Yup, you heard me - sixty!

Yup, happy birthday, Doug.

[RobM]

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Borracho wrote:

James Traynor is in fine form here.

We acknowledge that a tiny minority of Rangers fans also encroached on the pitch but only after having been faced with prolonged and severe provocation

With some of this lot, "prolonged and severe provocation" could mean almost anything. Losing the match, for instance. Or an ex-Celtic player scoring two of the opposition's goals.

Or playing a team in green & white on a green pitch?

And someone told me Traynor is an Airdrie fan?

Traynor left Ibrox two or three years ago didn't he? Not sure but I don't think he's there anymore.

You're quite right, a quick check reveals he left them in November 2013. My mistake.

He is now a PR man.

Further to that bud it seems it's me that's likely in the wrong, while he left the job at Rangers it's apparently his PR company that handle their press.

[Geoffrey de Ste. Croix]

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When Aberdeen used to warm up at Ibrox and Parkhead during the combustible 1980's fixtures, Rougvie used to remove himself from the rest of the squad and purposely do his warm ups right in front of the Jungle and the Copland Road end to wind up the Old Firm fans.

Apparently Fergie loved it as showed Aberdeen weren't intimidated.

[Borracho]

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Re the Neil Lennon/Hearts incident mentioned above, it occurred in the context of him having already been attacked and beaten up on at least two other separate occasions in Glasgow, and having had bullets and a nail bomb posted to him, resulting in him being put under 24-hour police protection. Not to mention his forced ejection from the Northern Ireland squad in 2001 and the hangman graffiti that had simultaneously appeared on walls around Lurgan.

The psycho Hearts fan running to the dugout and punching him didn't happen in a vacuum.

[The Red Max]

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Nocturnal Submission wrote:
Yup, happy birthday, Doug.

Is that when he nutted Fashanu?
Last I heard Big Doog was up in front of the Fiscal a couple of years back for twatting some young upstart with one of those plastic things that you throw a dogs ball with. I think the case was dropped, the Sheriff must've been a Dandy.

[torres]

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Borracho wrote: Re the Neil Lennon/Hearts incident mentioned above, it occurred in the context of him having already been attacked and beaten up on at least two other separate occasions in Glasgow, and having had bullets and a nail bomb posted to him, resulting in him being put under 24-hour police protection. Not to mention his forced ejection from the Northern Ireland squad in 2001 and the hangman graffiti that had simultaneously appeared on walls around Lurgan.

The psycho Hearts fan running to the dugout and punching him didn't happen in a vacuum.

Coupled with a not proven verdict in the case. How much more evidence did they need? It was on the fuckin telly.

But then again "he was asking for it"

[Duncan Gardner]

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Oh dear, those 80s shorts. Bumstead looks like he needs treatment for a hernia.

My fave Scot-on-Scot violence at a Chelsea game was when Speedie laid out Richard Gough in a penalty box melee at Spurs. The big man came to a minute later, looked around groggily, then did a kung-fu on the entirely blameless Kezzer Dixon (recently at HM's pleasure himself for pub assault).

Anyway, this is probably the point where I ask as every season what Crunchie McAllister is up to nowadays?

[AMMS]

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torres wrote:

Re the Neil Lennon/Hearts incident mentioned above, it occurred in the context of him having already been attacked and beaten up on at least two other separate occasions in Glasgow, and having had bullets and a nail bomb posted to him, resulting in him being put under 24-hour police protection. Not to mention his forced ejection from the Northern Ireland squad in 2001 and the hangman graffiti that had simultaneously appeared on walls around Lurgan.

The psycho Hearts fan running to the dugout and punching him didn't happen in a vacuum.

Coupled with a not proven verdict in the case. How much more evidence did they need? It was on the fuckin telly.

But then again "he was asking for it"

Torres, look at what they charged him with, no wonder he got off with it. They were never going to be able to prove religiously aggravated assault, it was insane to charge him with that and, in my opinion, politically motivated. Even simple assault was going to be difficult to prove beyond reasonable doubt.
Interestingly I noticed three people arrested on Saturday have been charged with offences under the Offensive Behaviour At Football act instead of breach of the peace or assault as they could have been. It does feel like political opportunism at work again.

Anyway Doug Rougvie is 60, fuckin hell that makes me feel really old. There were times in the past when I thought he'd be lucky to survive until the end of the match. I hated Rougvie, indeed that Aberdeen side had more than there fair share of hateful players, but Rougvie and Cooper held special places in the hate chamber. Even at the time we could tell what Rougvie was up too, and it worked. That Aberdeen side was something special when you look back at it, they had almost everything.

[Nocturnal Submission]

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The Red Max wrote:

Yup, happy birthday, Doug.

Is that when he nutted Fashanu?
Last I heard Big Doog was up in front of the Fiscal a couple of years back for twatting some young upstart with one of those plastic things that you throw a dogs ball with. I think the case was dropped, the Sheriff must've been a Dandy.

Yes, I think so, Max.

He was sent off whilst playing against Wimbledon after 10 minutes for head butting John Fashanu. That’s Fash the Bash. He of the black belt in something nasty fame. One rather unkind journalist said, “If he were any more limited he could be quoted on the Stock Exchange.”

Dougie also managed to score an own goal at Wembley that resulted in an easy 5-1 victory becoming a heart stopping 5-4 win against Manchester City. According to one Chelsea fan “at a time when there was no money, he was STILL over paid.”

What a guy.

Anyway, this is probably the point where I ask as every season what Crunchie McAllister is up to nowadays?

Not sure, Dunc. He certainly hasn't been given a half-time lap of honour at the Bridge at any game I've been to of late anyway.

[blameless]

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Crunchie is apparently a welder in Grangemouth these days - seems logical that after so many spells playing for Falkirk he'd end up back in that neighbourhood.

[blameless]

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Re the Neil Lennon/Hearts incident mentioned above, it occurred in the context of him having already been attacked and beaten up on at least two other separate occasions in Glasgow, and having had bullets and a nail bomb posted to him, resulting in him being put under 24-hour police protection. Not to mention his forced ejection from the Northern Ireland squad in 2001 and the hangman graffiti that had simultaneously appeared on walls around Lurgan.

The psycho Hearts fan running to the dugout and punching him didn't happen in a vacuum.

No it didn't happen in a vacuum, but you've highlighted a big part of the problem with the media coverage at the time - including some incidents that had happened over a decade prior, many of them in a different country.

To read some of Keith Jackson and Graham Spiers' bilious rubbish at the time, you'd have been forgiven for thinking that all of these incidents had happened in the space of 5 minutes, and all of Scotland was to blame.

[Geoffrey de Ste. Croix]

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That Aberdeen side were nails weren’t they? And of course in Willie Miller, you had the game’s greatest player-referee since Johan Cruyff. I watched quite a bit of footage of that Aberdeen side when reading the Michael Grant book on them, and if Miller isn’t booting opposition forwards in the air, he’s deep in discussion with referees pointing and telling them exactly what they should be doing.

I think Miller and McLeish in particular had something to prove in their home city whenever they played the Old Firm. That Miller was hated so much by the opposition is typified by the infamous Willie Johnstone-John McMaster throat-stamping incident. As Johnstone said later- "It's no excuse but I thought he was Willie Miller. Miller was a great player but he was a hard man and deserved some of his own treatment back. Unfortunately I got the wrong player."

Although Jim McLean's Dundee United were very well respected in Glasgow, they were not feared. Ferguson's Aberdeen were feared and despised in equal measure. Great days.

As an aside. In the Grant book, apparently Ferguson still has close relationships with that Aberdeen squad with the exception of Jim Leighton. The two have not spoken since 1990. I hadn't realised that.

[torres]

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AMMS.

We all know the reason for the attacks on Lennon, let's not pretend otherwise with empty rhetoric about which charges would stick.

[Snake Plissken]

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Ray de Galles wrote: There are tweets being unearthed about his support of Celtic and supposed sympathies for the IRA.

I had recently though that Barton was sorting himself out but I'm not sure a sojourn in Glasgow is the best thing for him.

There are a number of Twitter accounts which specialise in faking quotes and attributing them to players/managers. There was a Gary Neville one that did the rounds after the Valencia defeat and recently Sky Sports News had one as news.

This one has all the hallmarks of one of those fakes.

[Ray de Galles]

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It might be fake but, if so, it's a mock-up rather rather than a hoax account as the handle matches Barton's :



I don't think it's at all important, just the kind of thing that is going to be dragged up all the time now he's in Glasgow.

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[AMMS]

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torres wrote: AMMS.

We all know the reason for the attacks on Lennon, let's not pretend otherwise with empty rhetoric about which charges would stick.

Get a grip Torres, if you'd wanted to discuss the reasons you should have posted about that instead of what you did post, I answered your point about the assailant being found Not Proven and nothing else. Go stick your "empty rhetoric" back in your paranoia drawer.

[AMMS]

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Ray de Galles wrote: It might be fake but, if so, it's a mock-up rather rather than a hoax account as the handle matches Barton's :



I don't think it's at all important, just the kind of thing that is going to be dragged up all the time now he's in Glasgow.

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I doubt it will actually. If he says it, or similar, again it'll be a problem but he'll get a clean slate for past indiscretions from our lot and it doesn't matter what he said or says the 'other' lot will hate him anyway. Football fans will forgive almost anything if a player delivers on the field, our support are no different in that respect, unfortunately.

[Lang Spoon]

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Even the ferries n flegs day-trippers? (I'm not being sarky, I'm just guessing wildly they may be a bit hardcore in their proud loyalness).

[AMMS]

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Lang Spoon wrote: Even the ferries n flegs day-trippers? (I'm not being sarky, I'm just guessing wildly they may be a bit hardcore in their proud loyalness).

Yeah, as I said, if he does it on the park he'll get nothing but support. Indeed if he's really good on the park he'll get a bye on almost any kind of behaviour off it by a disturbingly high number of supporters. I know you think we come from another dimension but actually we're pretty much the same as everyone else.

[Snake Plissken]

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Sorry, quoted the wrong message. I meant the Talksport one is probably the fake one and that some Twitter accounts have been set up to generate those kinds of fakes.

I looked up that tweet, and as usual there is something lopped off in order to paint it in a different context.

This is the first tweet in the thread

Basically, it is some tweets about Guy Fawkes and people pile on with the Irish situation.