Sir Ian Holm's died.
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Originally posted by tee rex View PostAh, sad. One of those actors who could muster a really good top 10 films on his CV (without needing hobbits).
Absolutely. Just looking through his roles I'm reminded that he was in three of my all-time favourites, Ash in Alien of course, but also Mr Kutzmann in Brazil and his cameo as Napoleon in Time Bandits. His Sam Mussabini in Chariots of Fire was also very good and I even liked his portrayal of Sir William "Jack The Riper" Gull in From Hell.
Played Himmler in Holocaust and Goebbels in Inside the Third Reich, which is probably a bit of an unwanted double. "Make an ideal Nazi sociopath" isn't the sort of role pitch anyone really wants on their acting CV.
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Not to focus on Alien (although it is one of my favourite films) but the subtlety of Ian Holm's portrayal there is masterful. He isn't just a murderous android, you see. He is one increasingly conflicted by two primary orders that are impossible to reconcile - protect his crewmates but bring the creature home. Only when Ripley reveals her plan to blow up the ship and escape does the android know it cannot do both, and blows its circuits. Even then you can see his turmoil in how to proceed. It's a brilliant piece of acting.
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Originally posted by diggedy derek View PostI was listening to the BBC LOTR today, his acting is fantastic in it, basically playing someone who it burdened with existential dread and fear and a sense of duty, it's quite something. He's so human in it.
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Originally posted by Gangster Octopus View PostBy the way, my favourite memory of Ian is drunken Napoleonic rant about short historical heroes in Time Bandits.
Ditto. I was trying to find a clip of that on YT quite recently, without any great success.
Time Bandits might be my all-time favourite film.
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Originally posted by diggedy derek View PostI was listening to the BBC LOTR today, his acting is fantastic in it, basically playing someone who it burdened with existential dread and fear and a sense of duty, it's quite something. He's so human in it.
Scratch the previous.
False memory syndrome kicking in.
John Hurt was in the Ralph Bakshi film.
(Peter Woodthorpe in both of course)
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Originally posted by Gangster Octopus View PostTime Bandits is now on Film4. If you tune into Freeview 45 in 50 minutes, you'll catch the Napoleon bit.
Just after, "Mum, Dad, don't touch it, it's a piece of pure evil…"
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The thing about Ash in Alien is that Ian Holm plays him with real humanity - he's blowing on his hands to keep warm while waiting for the exploration party to return. To start with it seems he breaks quarantine to try and save Kane and to bring Dallas and Lambert back inside as well. Then, later we find out what he was really trying to do.
He was a great actor. RIP.
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