Flintoff never had that "1981" year that put Botham on such a high pedestal from which to be brought down. He was a key part of the 2005 Ashes but that was much more of a team effort and they were never on the verge of going 2-0 down.
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostFlintoff never had that "1981" year that put Botham on such a high pedestal from which to be brought down. He was a key part of the 2005 Ashes but that was much more of a team effort and they were never on the verge of going 2-0 down.
Flintoff at least went out on a high note in 2009; I wonder if Botham might have ended his international career if England had won the 1992 World Cup Final.
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I’ve finally got round to ‘Crickonomics’ by Stefan Szymanski and Tim Wigmore. It’s broadly what I expected having read Szymanski’s ‘Soccernomics’ book that he co-wrote with Simon Kuper some years ago, although there is, inevitably, more focus on class along with the financial and sociological analyses. An interesting read so far.
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I reread "Another Bloody Tour" once again this week. It still races along and make me laugh but I am now more sensitive to the very dodgy language on race, especially in light of the backgrounds of her husband and Alan Lamb. Richards sledges batters and is "devilish". Patterson is a "boy"; another West Indian of large build is a "buck". Staff are surly, especially women who have the temerity to hate white tourists.
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Banned
- Jun 2017
- 3026
- A long way from Utopia.
- India, Ireland & numerous, numerous ABscenarios...
- Far too many, currently...
Heh, language changes and evolves all the time...
Even the apparently unpleasant stuff.
If you want real racist stuff, have plenty of anecdotal examples...
That said, this is probably the most enjoyable thread on the entire MB btw, Imho.
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