Ricky Villa's goal. By a considerable distance.
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Originally posted by jwdd27 View PostThe moment when your side wins a corner. Despite there being a roughly 1 in 50 chance of scoring from it, the crowd give a huge roar. Followed by a bit of a sigh as your best crosser fails to clear the first defender or plops it into the keeper's arms.
And then from the clearance the speed merchant on the other side is bearing down on your goal, chased by only a full back or shortarse midfielder, as your defenders lumber back from their chance of glory...
Luckily fast players can't really finish and your keeper is able to push it out for a corner. A huge roar goes up from the away fans...
And I suppose if your team is ahead in the second half, a corner is helpful, it's a few more moments of possession and shows your side is still pressing. Or if you're being beaten - especially badly - it shows your side is still trying.
Really, other than goals and spectacular saves - both of which are fairly rare - there aren't many moments to cheer in football, so fans take what they can get.
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Originally posted by KGR View PostRicky Villa's goal. By a considerable distance.
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I was at that final. Doesn't seem 33 years ago.Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 04-12-2018, 20:57.
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Alf Ramsay's "stirring" words to his players before extra time in 66:
You've won it once. Now you'll have to go out there and win it again.
No, they hadn't won it. They'd drawn 2-2. And they only subsequently won it due to a phantom goal and another goal which would very possibly not have been scored if the phantom goal hadn't stood.
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Originally posted by That Night In Barcelona View PostThe Man Utd treble team of 98/99.
Inferior to later, less celebrated Ferguson teams and probably would lose in a head-to-head with his last title winning side.
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[QUOTE=That Night In Barcelona;1500591]The Man Utd treble team of 98/99.
Nah, I'm not having that. That midfield of Giggs, Keane, Scholes/butt, Beckham is the highpoint, and the endpoint of four man midfields. They came within a point of winning six consecutive league titles, which is pretty good going and the football was really beautiful, particularly compared with anything that came before. But it became apparent in europe that it wasn't enough to have a striker who dropped back into midfield. They needed a midfielder who could push up and join the striker.
The really striking thing about watching one of those matches (Here are the highlights of the arsenal 1-2 Man utd game from the following season. It's quite a famous example of the type. (It's the strangling headbutting game) is firstly it looks a lot like modern football. and good football at that. However if you look closely, there's enormous amounts of space, and the full backs hardly ever cross the half way line. There's no way a team even as good as this would have been able to handle playing against the Dutch 4-2-3-1 that man utd were playing in 2011-12 and 2012-13, with two overlapping full backs and inverted wingers. There'd be up to eight players swamping the midfield area at times. It would be like a really extreme case of those times when they would get caught out in europe.
Also that Raimond Van der Gouw was quite a handsome old bastard wasn't he?
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It would be difficult to argue that whatever rabble Mourinho puts out Wednesday night is superior to that. Although they'll certainly be bigger (and heavier in Lukaku's case), and probably fitter although probably not inclined to show it.
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Originally posted by The Awesome Berbaslug!!! View PostNah, I'm not having that. That midfield of Giggs, Keane, Scholes/butt, Beckham is the highpoint, and the endpoint of four man midfields.
Also that Raimond Van der Gouw was quite a handsome old bastard wasn't he?
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I don't fully understand the 'old football was crap'-vibe that's permeating OTF at the moment. Watching an entire game of which I already know the outcome would likely have me reaching for the fast-forward once or twice regardless of how long ago the game might've been - but footage of the 1970 World Cup (for example) never bores me.
Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View PostFamous because of Trainspotting, IIRC.
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Originally posted by Jah Womble View PostThe header asks for 'overrated', otherwise - as ad hoc notes - it just becomes a list of memorable events in football history.
jwdd is taking it in an interesting direction, although I don't necessarily agree 100% with his summary. (This from the supporter of a team that's recently been fairly ineffective from corners.)
OK then.
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