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    #26
    As a corollary, I'll watch anything where a guy is trying to escape a prison or something. Great Escape, Shawshank, etc.

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      #27
      Glad to see the disdain for the tedious Leigh and (especially) Loach. Loach stuff has been an unwatchable brew of poverty porn and schmaltz since he got his Weegie scriptwriter.

      Was quite amusing to see the anti-treaty side painted as Radical Leftists without exception in The Wind That Shakes The Barley. Almost as much nonsense as the Michael Collins film.

      Anything by Nicolas Winding Refn. Another vote for bio pics, anything by Richard Curtis. Bond films.

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        #28
        Most action movies and all sci-fi are no go.
        War movies mostly don't interest me.
        Adam Sandler movies.
        Films that show a lot of suffering.
        Wes Anderson movies. Too quirky.
        Other quirky auteur movies.

        I'd like to add scatalogical gross-out movies to the list, but I can't. When I watched Blockers recently, I knew it was wrong, but I laughed rather a lot.

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          #29
          Originally posted by San Bernardhinault View Post
          Films about films, film-makers, Hollywood, making it in Hollywood. Either self-indulgent crap, or a sign of desperate laziness of writers and directors who can't imagine anything outside their own personal current experience.
          I completely get why they're annoying, but I love that type of stuff (if it's done well at least.) Also books about writing books and TV shows about making TV shows, generally anything about storytelling is like catnip to me especially if it starts getting all meta.

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            #30
            I, Daniel Blake was fucking terrible. Laid on with a trowel. Awful acting, terrible script. Looking For Eric, which I'm not allowed to slag off because Eric Cantona is in it, is unwatchable shit. If it was Looking For Sheringham or something absolutely no one would want to watch it. Maybe Loach could use some of his genius to get the fucking actors acting, rather than just being paper-thin caricatures of Glum Glaswegian, Morose Mancunian or Melancholic Merseysider. If the story needs telling, tell it in a way that doesn't alienate me, ffs. I should be core target for this stuff, but I, Daniel Blake had me leafleting for the Conservative Party and looking for property in Chipping Norton.

            Good films are films about men who are reluctantly forced to coach a rubbish sports team, turning around their fortunes and learning a lesson about themselves in the process. Also films about teachers who use unorthodox methods to win the hearts and minds of a class of difficult students. Also films about dogs who can talk.

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              #31
              As always, EIM knows the score.

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                #32
                The Angel’s Share should have been strangled at birth. Ae Fond Kiss, pure shit. Sweet Sixteen proved not all non actor kids can act and that Kes was a fuckin long time ago. My Name is Joe made me want a pint of Powers. Land and Freedom was Ladybird Orwell.
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                  #33
                  Alternatively;

                  Originally posted by EIM View Post
                  Good films are films about men who are reluctantly forced to coach a rubbish sports team, turning around their fortunes and learning a lesson about themselves in the process. Also films about teachers who use unorthodox methods to win the hearts and minds of a class of difficult students. Also films about dogs who can talk. Midnight Run.

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                    #34
                    Cop buddy films are obviously great, doubly so if one of the cops is actually a dog.

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                      #35
                      Originally posted by Fussbudget View Post
                      I completely get why they're annoying, but I love that type of stuff (if it's done well at least.) Also books about writing books and TV shows about making TV shows, generally anything about storytelling is like catnip to me especially if it starts getting all meta.
                      Yup. Even Ed Wood, which isn't a good film, is an enjoyable film.

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                        #36
                        Noise a big turn-off for me. Loud thunderous music seems to have become a major selling point of cinema v television (because they have such massive sound systems) but it keeps me away.

                        Any sequels are obvious no-nos except Godfather II. Anything involving stalking of women. Comedy generally stinks because it's so hard to be funny over two hours.

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                          #37
                          Paddington 2 is a sequel better than the original.

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                            #38
                            I don't know what you people do with your time with all of these restrictions. You're missing a lot of good stuff.

                            The only genre that is almost completely off for me is horror. But even with that, it's not 100%. I can dig some ghost/monster-oriented stuff, but no torture porn or slasher nonsense.

                            I'm increasingly, though not completely, disinterested in anything that is mostly about gun violence unless there's some other redeeming feature. So I may never bother with all of those classic westerns I've not seen yet.* And Quinton Tarrentino can just fuck-off, I guess.

                            Anything with a rape in it.

                            Anything with mistreatment of animals, especially if it's treated casually (though usually I don't know this is coming until it happens).

                            Anything where the dog dies.

                            Anything beloved by right-wing militarists - so fuck John Wayne, for starters and fuck just about anything directed by Peter Berg - or anything that I suspect is going to glorify war rather than show it as the tragedy that it really is. I really liked Dunkirk, however, which was kinda both depending on which parts one paid most attention to. And I usually have a soft-spot for anything about air warfare in the pre-jet age or anything about the age of sail.



                            There are a number of types of film that I don't watch not because I'm not interested in the topic, but because I'm 99% sure I've seen it all before many times and life is short.

                            Anything with "ex-NAVY seal, ex-Green Beret, ex-SAS sniper" etc. in the breakdown's character description. Not because those can't be good, but because they almost never are and I'm pretty sure I've seen the ones that are. Shooter was very good, however. That was sorta anti-right-wing, really.

                            Anything about a serial killer. Not only am I tired of stuff that uses shock and violence as a stand-in for actual human emotion, I just think the "very clever serial killer" genre is played out. And yet Criminal Minds is on it's like 20th season. (Mindhunter, about the development of that field of forensic science in the 70s, is pretty good, though, if for no other reason then it up-ends a lot of the serial-killer/FBI-profiler tropes.)

                            I'm not against rom-coms overall, and I can still find value in stuff that's primarily about and/or aimed at teenagers, but I am not interested in standard romantic comedies clearly aimed at 14-year-old girls. Netflix has figured out that this is an under-served market and God bless 'em, but I'm done with that.

                            Anything with the tag-line/line-featured-in-trailer "There's a war coming..." or "A war between the vampyres and the werewolves has been raging..." (or along those lines) That might have had a chance to be interesting the first 10 times it was tried. But now...c'mon fellas. That isn't to say nothing interesting can be done about vampires and werewolves - both versions of Being Human are excellent, but the low-hanging fruit in that genre has been well picked-over, to say the least.

                            "Uplifting" sports films. I loved Rocky and most of its sequels, The Natural and of course I love Miracle, but I doubt there's anything left to be mined in that vein. I loved Moneyball, Bull Durham and 42 as well, but those don't follow the same standard Rocky-esque plot which is, I suppose, closely aligned with the standard Joseph Campbell hero's journey. Fine the first 20 times I've seen it, but life is short now.

                            Anything about porn. Especially porn in the 70s. I'd rather watch actual porn - and I don't want to watch actual porn - than a film about porn in the 70s. I have seen Boogie Nights and don't need to see it again and I got about half-an-hour into that thing on HBO about Times Square in the 70s before checking out. I just find it aesthetically gross and boring overall. I do, however, like films about the 70's as I actually remember it - boring, boring, boring, lots of ugly color schemes, wood-paneling, shitty rusting cars, bad clothes, etc.

                            Anything with just godawful dialogue. So the Fast & Furious movies are out for me. Just took me out of it and I couldn't enjoy the racing bits.

                            If I'm being honest, I also avoid anything I know will be heartbreaking and upsetting in ways that I will not be able to distance myself from. So I haven't seen 12 Years A Slave or Moonlight yet. I generally avoid holocaust films. I always say I'm going to, but I don't. And yet I did see Manchester-By-The-Sea and Blue Valentine and thought they were both heartbreaking and amazing. I guess I'm more comfortable seeing white-people suffer because I'm not so plagued with guilt and anxiety about what I should be doing to transform society. I'm more likely to see these kinds of movies if I can see them in the theater, but a lot of them don't come here unless they come for one or two nights only at our community/arthouse place, and then I often miss it.



                            Not to derail the thread, but maybe to be more optimistic we could add the things we always are suckers for.
                            These are the genres I'm almost always interested in, even if other things about the trailer or reviews say "stay away."

                            Anything about the Age of Sail, especially if it's highly stylized. I like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies even more than Michael Bolton does.

                            Anything about a highly convoluted and possibly implausible "caper" featuring actors I like. (Oceans 11, etc)

                            Anything about daring pilots in WWI or WWII or during the space race. (First Man is excellent, btw).

                            Anything with an 80s or 90s soundtrack I really like. (Loved Atomic Blonde, for example, though not only because of that)

                            Anything about giant monsters or robots. Especially if one of said robots/monsters throws a car at another one at some point in the film. (Even the Transformers)

                            Anything based on stuff I was into as a kid and ought to be forgetting about now but haven't, the nerdier and more specific the better. (The otherwise hard-to-defend Ready Player One, for example, or the really disappointing live-action version of Ghost in the Shell, for example) I'd be all over a Yars Revenge film, for example.

                            Anything that is heavily derivative of The Twilight Zone. (Black Mirror, Outer Limits, any other short-story sci-fi/fantasy).

                            Anything sci-fi in which the author made a serious attempt to keep it grounded in real science as much as possible. (The Martian, The Expanse, Moon).

                            Anything with a big dragon.

                            Anything with Charlize Theron.

                            Anything with George Clooney

                            Anything by Cameron Crowe. That one he made about rockets in Hawaii was really bad, but Almost Famous and Say Anything are two of my top tens.

                            Anything by the Cohen Brothers.

                            Anything about men in their 30s or 40s coming to grips with middle-age.

                            * However, I don't count The Godfather or Goodfellas in that category - those are more about power than violence per se. It's been said - by whom I forget - that the most violent moment in the Godfather films is the bit after Michael tells Kay that he will never allow her to take his children and then closes the door on her to talk to his associates. That's a different understanding of the word violent, but one worth exploring so I'm not opposed to seeing it explored intelligently in films.

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                              #39
                              1. Modern American or British films, with the odd exception.

                              2. Films that are all about the aaaaaaacting (especially if it's pseudo-naturalistic or method shit).

                              3. Appropriative bullshit that craps all over minorities' lives and experiences so Eddie Redmayne or some such prick can win an award while ignorant audiences think "Oh, that's what these people are actually like, how tragic."

                              4. Biopics that are versions of someone's life with actors. Biopics that involve footage and interviews (Derailroaded, We Jam Econo) are much better, but I suppose they're documentaries.

                              In summary.

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                                #40
                                Musicals.

                                This also applies to stage musicals.

                                God knows, I've tried to like them. But I just really, really don't.

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                                  #41
                                  Originally posted by EIM View Post
                                  I, Daniel Blake was fucking terrible. Laid on with a trowel. Awful acting, terrible script. Looking For Eric, which I'm not allowed to slag off because Eric Cantona is in it, is unwatchable shit. If it was Looking For Sheringham or something absolutely no one would want to watch it. Maybe Loach could use some of his genius to get the fucking actors acting, rather than just being paper-thin caricatures of Glum Glaswegian, Morose Mancunian or Melancholic Merseysider. If the story needs telling, tell it in a way that doesn't alienate me, ffs. I should be core target for this stuff, but I, Daniel Blake had me leafleting for the Conservative Party and looking for property in Chipping Norton.
                                  .
                                  Very surprised at your reaction here.

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                                    #42
                                    Originally posted by EIM View Post
                                    Paddington 2 is a sequel better than the original.
                                    Aliens is a great sequel.

                                    And Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie.

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                                      #43
                                      Originally posted by Benjm View Post
                                      I don't like [...] Studio Ghibli productions
                                      That's a banning.

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                                        #44
                                        Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
                                        I don't know what you people do with your time with all of these restrictions. You're missing a lot of good stuff.

                                        The only genre that is almost completely off for me is horror. But even with that, it's not 100%. I can dig some ghost/monster-oriented stuff, but no torture porn or slasher nonsense.

                                        I'm increasingly, though not completely, disinterested in anything that is mostly about gun violence unless there's some other redeeming feature. So I may never bother with all of those classic westerns I've not seen yet.* And Quinton Tarrentino can just fuck-off, I guess.

                                        Anything with a rape in it.

                                        Anything with mistreatment of animals, especially if it's treated casually (though usually I don't know this is coming until it happens).

                                        Anything where the dog dies.

                                        Anything beloved by right-wing militarists - so fuck John Wayne, for starters and fuck just about anything directed by Peter Berg - or anything that I suspect is going to glorify war rather than show it as the tragedy that it really is. I really liked Dunkirk, however, which was kinda both depending on which parts one paid most attention to. And I usually have a soft-spot for anything about air warfare in the pre-jet age or anything about the age of sail.



                                        There are a number of types of film that I don't watch not because I'm not interested in the topic, but because I'm 99% sure I've seen it all before many times and life is short.

                                        Anything with "ex-NAVY seal, ex-Green Beret, ex-SAS sniper" etc. in the breakdown's character description. Not because those can't be good, but because they almost never are and I'm pretty sure I've seen the ones that are. Shooter was very good, however. That was sorta anti-right-wing, really.

                                        Anything about a serial killer. Not only am I tired of stuff that uses shock and violence as a stand-in for actual human emotion, I just think the "very clever serial killer" genre is played out. And yet Criminal Minds is on it's like 20th season. (Mindhunter, about the development of that field of forensic science in the 70s, is pretty good, though, if for no other reason then it up-ends a lot of the serial-killer/FBI-profiler tropes.)

                                        I'm not against rom-coms overall, and I can still find value in stuff that's primarily about and/or aimed at teenagers, but I am not interested in standard romantic comedies clearly aimed at 14-year-old girls. Netflix has figured out that this is an under-served market and God bless 'em, but I'm done with that.

                                        Anything with the tag-line/line-featured-in-trailer "There's a war coming..." or "A war between the vampyres and the werewolves has been raging..." (or along those lines) That might have had a chance to be interesting the first 10 times it was tried. But now...c'mon fellas. That isn't to say nothing interesting can be done about vampires and werewolves - both versions of Being Human are excellent, but the low-hanging fruit in that genre has been well picked-over, to say the least.

                                        "Uplifting" sports films. I loved Rocky and most of its sequels, The Natural and of course I love Miracle, but I doubt there's anything left to be mined in that vein. I loved Moneyball, Bull Durham and 42 as well, but those don't follow the same standard Rocky-esque plot which is, I suppose, closely aligned with the standard Joseph Campbell hero's journey. Fine the first 20 times I've seen it, but life is short now.

                                        Anything about porn. Especially porn in the 70s. I'd rather watch actual porn - and I don't want to watch actual porn - than a film about porn in the 70s. I have seen Boogie Nights and don't need to see it again and I got about half-an-hour into that thing on HBO about Times Square in the 70s before checking out. I just find it aesthetically gross and boring overall. I do, however, like films about the 70's as I actually remember it - boring, boring, boring, lots of ugly color schemes, wood-paneling, shitty rusting cars, bad clothes, etc.

                                        Anything with just godawful dialogue. So the Fast & Furious movies are out for me. Just took me out of it and I couldn't enjoy the racing bits.

                                        If I'm being honest, I also avoid anything I know will be heartbreaking and upsetting in ways that I will not be able to distance myself from. So I haven't seen 12 Years A Slave or Moonlight yet. I generally avoid holocaust films. I always say I'm going to, but I don't. And yet I did see Manchester-By-The-Sea and Blue Valentine and thought they were both heartbreaking and amazing. I guess I'm more comfortable seeing white-people suffer because I'm not so plagued with guilt and anxiety about what I should be doing to transform society. I'm more likely to see these kinds of movies if I can see them in the theater, but a lot of them don't come here unless they come for one or two nights only at our community/arthouse place, and then I often miss it.



                                        Not to derail the thread, but maybe to be more optimistic we could add the things we always are suckers for.
                                        These are the genres I'm almost always interested in, even if other things about the trailer or reviews say "stay away."

                                        Anything about the Age of Sail, especially if it's highly stylized. I like the Pirates of the Caribbean movies even more than Michael Bolton does.

                                        Anything about a highly convoluted and possibly implausible "caper" featuring actors I like. (Oceans 11, etc)

                                        Anything about daring pilots in WWI or WWII or during the space race. (First Man is excellent, btw).

                                        Anything with an 80s or 90s soundtrack I really like. (Loved Atomic Blonde, for example, though not only because of that)

                                        Anything about giant monsters or robots. Especially if one of said robots/monsters throws a car at another one at some point in the film. (Even the Transformers)

                                        Anything based on stuff I was into as a kid and ought to be forgetting about now but haven't, the nerdier and more specific the better. (The otherwise hard-to-defend Ready Player One, for example, or the really disappointing live-action version of Ghost in the Shell, for example) I'd be all over a Yars Revenge film, for example.

                                        Anything that is heavily derivative of The Twilight Zone. (Black Mirror, Outer Limits, any other short-story sci-fi/fantasy).

                                        Anything sci-fi in which the author made a serious attempt to keep it grounded in real science as much as possible. (The Martian, The Expanse, Moon).

                                        Anything with a big dragon.

                                        Anything with Charlize Theron.

                                        Anything with George Clooney

                                        Anything by Cameron Crowe. That one he made about rockets in Hawaii was really bad, but Almost Famous and Say Anything are two of my top tens.

                                        Anything by the Cohen Brothers.

                                        Anything about men in their 30s or 40s coming to grips with middle-age.

                                        * However, I don't count The Godfather or Goodfellas in that category - those are more about power than violence per se. It's been said - by whom I forget - that the most violent moment in the Godfather films is the bit after Michael tells Kay that he will never allow her to take his children and then closes the door on her to talk to his associates. That's a different understanding of the word violent, but one worth exploring so I'm not opposed to seeing it explored intelligently in films.
                                        I thought I was picky.

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                                          #45
                                          Originally posted by 3 Colours Red View Post
                                          I'm not a massive film buff to be fair.


                                          Bloody hell, you wouldn't even watch Dumbo.
                                          Dumbo was my fillum as a kid. But fuck me, it's long, and bits of it are really, really boring.

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                                            #46
                                            Anything about giant monsters or robots. Especially if one of said robots/monsters throws a car at another one at some point in the film.
                                            Yeah!

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                                              #47
                                              Stuff churned out by BBC Films. No matter what the subject or story, they're trowelled with twee middle class values.

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                                                #48
                                                Originally posted by WOM View Post
                                                Yup. Even Ed Wood, which isn't a good film, is an enjoyable film.
                                                Ed Wood is a marvellous film, you fool.

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                                                  #49
                                                  Originally posted by Patrick Thistle View Post
                                                  Very surprised at your reaction here.
                                                  Why?

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                                                    #50
                                                    And Empire Strikes Back is the best Star Wars movie.
                                                    And Peter Dinklage is...
                                                    Last edited by DCI Harry Batt; 06-11-2018, 09:51.

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