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    #26
    Yes.

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      #27
      Originally posted by Kevin S View Post
      Spreading the 2020 European Championships out across the continent rather than basing it in one host nation.



      Assuming you mean the Nations League, it's already been done. Started in September, and used the six international fixture slots between then and now to complete the round robins. All that remains is to find the overall winner (England, Portugal, Switzerland or Netherlands) next summer.
      I knew it already started. I just don’t understand how all of the international competitions, the Champions League, and whatever comes of the nascent World Club Championships can coexist.

      I’d be happy to get rid of the World Cup qualifiers and award places in the WC based on the outcome of an international National League set-up. Or something like that.

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        #28
        Originally posted by Southport Zeb View Post
        The draw will be arranged to avoid "political clashes". This means Kosovo cannot be drawn with Bosnia or Serbia. Other prohibited pairings are Armenia & Azerbaijan, Gibraltar & Spain and Russia & Ukraine.

        There are also a number of other restrictions on the draw - no more than two sides hosting finals matches can be drawn in the same group, no more than two nations classified as medium/ high risk for severe weather can be drawn together and then there are some limits to prevent excessive travel for some countries on the extremities of Europe.
        Given Bosnia is mostly followed by Muslims and Croats, there would seem little reason to separate them from Kosovo?

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          #29
          Bosnia has never recognised Kosovo's independence, due mainly to heavy lobbying from the ethnic Serb tranche of government, but also some Bosniak reluctance to engage with the stricter, Saudi sponsored Islam practiced in Kosovo.
          So Kosovo still have considerable beef with Serbia and Bosnia - just today they imposed 100% tariffs on imports from both countries.

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            #30
            A choice of updated rankings before the December draw:

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              #31
              I don't see how NL group winners are hard done by. The NL is 4 or 6 games over a few weeks whereas the tiers were based on coefficients from a much bigger range of games. I think the pots are striking a fair balance between current form and longer term pedigree and the teams who have had the poorest year - Germany and Iceland - have been relegated.

              The NL group winners in Tier D such as Kosovo should beat whichever Pot 4 or Pot 5 team they get.

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                #32
                Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View Post
                I don't see how NL group winners are hard done by.
                Agreed, it's a good thing for NL that DE had an off year.

                (this abbreviation is doing my head in)

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                  #33
                  Good also that Netherlands came back this year, although that could also have happened in a normal qualifying campaign.

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                    #34
                    The list of restrictions of who can get drawn against whom for political, geographical, potential hosting or even meteorological reasons is going to make this very hard to follow. If England get drawn with Ireland, for example, they can't get Romania, Hungary, Azerbaijan or Kazakhstan. If they draw Russia, Germany or Denmark they can't draw Ireland, Scotland, Romania, Hungary or Azerbaijan, and if they get Finland or Norway with Russia they then also can't get Lithuania, Estonia, Belarus, the Faroes or Latvia. I've a feeling we're going to hear a lot of explaining from the draw officials.
                    Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 02-12-2018, 09:11.

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                      #35
                      I think it's absurd. If you enter a competition you should have to play against any other team. Deal with it.

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                        #36
                        https://twitter.com/SimonGleave/stat...648863744?s=19

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                          #37
                          Ireland and Scotland will avoid Holland and Germany.

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                            #38
                            The 2 hosts rule keeps the Republic out of the Holland Germany group and puts Northern Ireland there instead!

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                              #39
                              Northern Ireland shafted in Dublin, thanks to Europe's rules. Arf.

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                                #40
                                And now Ireland avoid Azerbaijan and get Gibraltar instead because of the hosts rule! Anyone would think they were doing the draw in Dublin.

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                                  #41
                                  Eastern Europeans set to flood into London, post-Brexit.

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                                    #42
                                    Atdhe Nuhiu v England. When do they release the exact fixtures?

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                                      #43
                                      Denmark, Switzerland, Gibraltar, Georgia

                                      Anyone would think that these are the only countries in Europe

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                                        #44
                                        Originally posted by tee rex View Post
                                        Eastern Europeans set to flood into London, post-Brexit.
                                        They'll still be queuing to get through customs way after the game has finished.

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                                          #45
                                          Group A: England, Czech Republic, Bulgaria, Montenegro, Kosovo

                                          Group B: Portugal, Ukraine, Serbia, Lithuania, Luxembourg

                                          Group C: Netherlands, Germany, Northern Ireland, Estonia, Belarus

                                          Group D: Switzerland, Denmark, Republic of Ireland, Georgia, Gibraltar

                                          Group E: Croatia, Wales, Slovakia, Hungary, Azerbaijan

                                          Group F: Spain, Sweden, Norway, Romania, Faroe Islands, Malta

                                          Group G: Poland, Austria, Israel, Slovenia, Macedonia, Latvia

                                          Group H: France, Iceland, Turkey, Albania, Moldova, Andorra

                                          Group I: Belgium, Russia, Scotland, Cyprus, Kazakhstan, San Marino

                                          Group J: Italy, Bosnia-Herzegovina, Finland, Greece, Armenia, Liechtenstein

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                                            #46
                                            Most old-fashioned group: F.

                                            Best chance of breakthrough: Finland in J, Israel in G.

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                                              #47
                                              Can't see any of the top seeds missing out on qualifying, but of the second seeds I'd say only Germany and Russia look nailed on.

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                                                #48
                                                Poland and Italy maybe, based on how badly Poland have played this year and how Italy messed up the WCQ. But they'd get a UNL play-off, as would the second seeds.

                                                Wales should qualify unless Slovakia or Hungary dramatically improve. From the 3rd tier, maybe Turkey could put Iceland out, and the second spot in England's group looks competitive. Group G is incredibly weak.

                                                Macedonia and Kosovo could conceivably grab a qualifying slot and throw open the Tier D playoffs. Belarus are unfortunate; could Georgia upset Denmark?

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                                                  #49
                                                  Why would that make Belarus unfortunate? If any of the other League D winners qualified that playoff spot would go to Luxembourg, wouldn't it?

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                                                    #50
                                                    Originally posted by Rogin the Armchair fan View Post
                                                    Why would that make Belarus unfortunate? If any of the other League D winners qualified that playoff spot would go to Luxembourg, wouldn't it?
                                                    I meant in drawing Germany and Holland. Obviously they'll love it if the other League D group winners go through via the main route and make the play-offs weaker.

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