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Originally posted by Vicarious Thrillseeker View PostForza Shqipėria!!! Forza Kosovė!!!!
I'm very curious why. This is not a thing you can throw out just because it might seem cool. Explain why. If you are so inclined will say.
And you know, I would wonder the same if you rooted for Croatia 1991, but no connection to the country.
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Originally posted by Pietro Paolo Virdis View PostWhy?
I'm very curious why. This is not a thing you can throw out just because it might seem cool. Explain why. If you are so inclined will say.
And you know, I would wonder the same if you rooted for Croatia 1991, but no connection to the country.
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Sets up a great final day in the group, with four teams all going for it. Although Brazil only need a draw, I'd be surprised if they played for one, and there'd be no purpose in the Ticos playing for a point. Brazil and Germany last 16 clash seems favourite to happen but both teams could finish runners up if there's a two goal swing in Switzerland's favour. Least likely scenario is Ticos beat Swiss while Brazil fail to beat Serbia. Second least likely scenario is Mexico lose a game which allows Germany to win their group.
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Originally posted by Defensive mindedI find it despicable to see spoilt millionaires running over to a section of the crowd to provoke them, based on their version of identity politics. I know plenty of people from ex-Yugoslavia. None of them agree on the narrative that Serbia were the only perpetrators. There were victims and perpetrators on all sides.
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View Postdm, I share your concern about the dangers of nationalism, but would suggest that these players' personal histories and the fact that they were whistled and booed every time they touched the ball by a large portion of the Serbian support (several of whom were brandishing "Kosovo is Serbia" banners and more of whom were chanting that slogan) in arguably the most important they've match they've ever played all means that there are much better targets for that concern.
Thanks daddy. Can you tuck me in with a wee story about genocide? ta. x
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Originally posted by Defensive mindedYou can't see the difference between playing for a national team and making nationalistic signs to the supporters of the other team?
Playing for your country is/is not a sign of nationalism, which is/is not allowed by others in your sphere of reference/killing point.
Sometimes, you get to choose, and sometimes, you get lucky. Let the scorers win, for once. Tomorrow, it will be someone else, and then in a month's time, everyone will go back to hating each other for no reason.
FIFA: It's only slightly more expensive than collaborative pancakes.
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Originally posted by Nefertiti2 View PostThe only thing he;s posted on twitter (apart from that article) that anyone might object to as far as I can see is:
https://twitter.com/XS_11official/status/1007508405731430400
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Originally posted by Satchmo Distel View PostSets up a great final day in the group, with four teams all going for it. Although Brazil only need a draw, I'd be surprised if they played for one, and there'd be no purpose in the Ticos playing for a point. Brazil and Germany last 16 clash seems favourite to happen but both teams could finish runners up if there's a two goal swing in Switzerland's favour. Least likely scenario is Ticos beat Swiss while Brazil fail to beat Serbia. Second least likely scenario is Mexico lose a game which allows Germany to win their group.
Ticos have nothing to play for except pride surely.
Regarding the penalty incident, what is the VAR protocol? If the VAR team saw the incident presumably they then inform the referee that he should look at it. But can he then ignore them and say he is happy with his decision and isn't going to review the incident? I have read that the ref retains overall control, but does this extend to dismissing VAR if he doesn't think its necessary?
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Originally posted by Vicarious Thrillseeker View PostI lived in Albania for four years; have friends who lost family and property in Kosovo. Not enough for you? I'm very happy for the Kosovars in the Swiss team who were unable to transfer their allegiance to Kosovo when FIFA blocked them.
And yes, it's good enough for me.
Sorry for the delay here responding.
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Originally posted by Chemin-de-fairy View PostWould you like to... step outside? (Don't want to fuck up the thread We can do PM's.)
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Originally posted by Sean of the Shed View Post
OTOH Serbia's time would be better spent working out how to beat Brazil. Save the protests until you are definitely out.
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Doraemon, my understanding is exactly that. The on-field referee retains absolute control and can reject anything the VAR tell him.
Dm, VT knows much more about this than I do, but I can tell you that displays of Albanian and Kosovar flags were very prominent in the celebrations in Pristina the other night.
Finally, FIFA have opened an official investigation into the celebrations.
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Originally posted by Sean of the Shed View Post
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Originally posted by Defensive mindedI was always under the impression that Albania wasn't too keen on showing too much solidarity with Kosovo. I would be sincerely interested in what you have to say about the general opinion of the Albanian population; whether there was some sort of consensus or split opinions.
So - Albania supports Kosovo because of an ethnic and cultural bond (and also sporting - Granit Xhaka's bfother plays football for Albania) but there is not quite as much feeling the other way. Kosovo wants independence - as a separate and distinct state but with a strong Alnanian identity.
At least that's what I understand.
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Only if you’re a prick. You wonder why people don’t want England to win and this is what hammering some minnow in the group stages emboldens you to do.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 24-06-2018, 12:46.
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