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    the next election- or when will we be rid of this rotten band of crooks ?

    Can't find the latest thread, but maybe it's time for another one compiling portents, hopes, shenanigans about the successor to Theresa May,

    Tonight


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    Then London isnt Britain (England) when the Tories get walked over and set on fire in the Imperial Capital elections in the spring.

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    The problem is that 40% of the active Brit electorate seem permanently politically retarded.
    A certain event in 2016 being a case in point.

    Perhaps we need to wait for a few more to die...

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    That Northchurch ward is next to mine, and has been Tory since at least 1979.

    Yesterday's result is a huge swing in a ward which covers quite a bit of rural Dacorum, it's not just commuters. Suspect that the usual voting bloc of comfortably-off pensioners didn't turn out for the Conservatives on this occasion.

    The next sweep of local elections in May will be very interesting indeed.

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    One more for the collection


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    The Greens won a formerly Tory seat on Oswestry Town Council last night, claiming 44% of the vote. Oswestry Town Council now has 6 Greens and the Tories are down to 8, with 4 others.

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    I'm very wary of reading too much into local government by-elections; there's all sorts of other circumstances surrounding them - the reason why there actually had to be a by-election often being a big variable. There's been some not-so-great Labour by-election performances lately too.

    But yeah, we should all be getting out there to smash these fuckers out of power.

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    That Wollaton West vote looks like a triumph of tactical voting, doesn't it?

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    Especially as about 10% of the vote appears to have come from nowhere, according to the figures is brackets.

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    I'd have a guess at UKIP dropping out

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    Well done to Etienne and the Shropshire Greens.

    In other electoral news, Sinn Fein have sent their NI big-hitters to the Kremlin. It's a gay nightclub in Belfast- the sisterhood need to soothe the pink vote after forgetting their equal marriage promises during recent talks

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    Surely that's yer auld mates, the DUPers...

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    Plus in mainland Britain, bar 2-3 Parliamentary seats, the Greens are an irrelevance.
    Not that it's vastly better in Ireland, with only them, PBP & SF offering even anything vaguely 'progressive'.

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    I can't claim any credit, DG. Shamefully lax on the campaigning front.

    Gonzo, while our stupid electoral system does hinder the Greens in many ways, I think that Oswestry (among other areas) shows that the Greens can beat the Tories in seats which Labour could never win. These are often a role that the Lib Dems played, but the Green candidates are likely to be more progressive than them (not in every case, I concede).

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    Quote Originally Posted by Etienne View Post
    The Greens won a formerly Tory seat on Oswestry Town Council last night, claiming 44% of the vote. Oswestry Town Council now has 6 Greens and the Tories are down to 8, with 4 others.
    Blud'yell mon! Oswestry's changed since the '70s, anner?

    Good work, though. (To whoever actually did the campaigning. Smiley face.)

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    Seats where Green vote greater than winning majority, 2017

    Brighton Pavilion
    Glasgow North
    Kensington
    Canterbury
    Chipping Barnet
    Southampton Itchen
    Stroud
    Ceredigion
    Keighley
    Norwich North
    Dudley North
    Peterborough
    Bedford
    Telford
    Barrow and Furness
    Edinburgh North and Leith
    Calder Valley
    Ipswich

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    ChrisJ, it's odd really. The rest of North Shropshire seems as dyed in the wool blue as ever (every single town councilor in Market Drayton for instance is a Tory) and Oswestry demographically doesn't seem that different, but it does seem to have a bit of a burgeoning bohemian population. I think the appeal of the Greens is for hard-working responsive councilors rather than a groundswell of support for Universal Basic Income or anything similar. Don't think Owen Paterson is going to be getting worried yet, given the Tories have won every single election in Shropshire North.

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    Yeah, Oswestry's always been a funny place. My last impressions were that it was shifting from working-class tory to middle-class tory, but that was a loooong time ago; maybe the kids I knew in the early 80s are the local opinion-formers now?

    Is it analogous, perhaps to Stroud in Glos? A little dot of progression in a sea of blue. 'Course Stroud's big enough to have it's own MP while Oswestry's still overwhelmed by the blue surrounds. If Paterson gets turned over, the revolution's started.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gardner View Post
    Seats where Green vote greater than winning majority, 2017

    Brighton Pavilion
    Glasgow North
    Kensington
    Canterbury
    Chipping Barnet
    Southampton Itchen
    Stroud
    Ceredigion
    Keighley
    Norwich North
    Dudley North
    Peterborough
    Bedford
    Telford
    Barrow and Furness
    Edinburgh North and Leith
    Calder Valley
    Ipswich

    So what?

    BNP vote greater than the winning majority, 2010

    Sheffield Central

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    1 seat- big deal

    20 seats- bigger deal

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    Quote Originally Posted by Duncan Gardner View Post
    1 seat- big deal

    20 seats- bigger deal

    Ok.

    That's a fair cop guv'. Bang to rights.

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    Let's take a ride and run with the dogs tonight
    That's not going to happen again next time is it?

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