Hamilton didn't start as an entitled rich bloke. Or indeed a particularly well off background at all. Which makes him unusual in the context of F1. His wealth, at least, comes off the back of his own talents. His personality, well he has no excuses for that.
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F1 drivers have historically been over-represented in the list of SPOTY winners though. Nigel Mansell and Damon Hill both won it twice despite only winning one world title each.
I like the idea of it being a 'once and for all' award, where former winners can't get nominated again. Bit like the Wisden Cricketers of the Year. It's just as bonkers that Andy Murray's won it three times recently. Put a rule like that in place and Kevin Sinfield and Alistair Brownlee would have won his latter two, which I wouldn't have disapproved of. Other former winners under a rule like that would have included Tony Jacklin, Sally Gunnell and Denise Lewis.Last edited by Rogin the Armchair fan; 04-10-2018, 11:52.
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Sinfield was a bonkers pick though, and I say that even as someone who enjoys the odd bit of RL.
edit - full disclosure: at the time I was quite excited by the fact he got nominated and the surprisingly large vote he got, but in reality it didn't feel like his vote was 'geniune' and was rather a plug for the sport instead.
edit 2 - looking back at the '15 thread, I said that Sinfield would be breaking the ice for whoever was England's star in 2017 (a RLWC year) to win the thing. I suppose Luke Gale would've been a good nomination last year after being the best player in Super League and playing in the halves for England all the way to the final. Not sure how he missed out on a nomination last year in hindsight.Last edited by Kevin S; 04-10-2018, 12:25.
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... not that I'm saying Luke Gale could/should have won it last year. Losing the Super League final and the World Cup final doesn't quite cut it for SPOTY. But he was worthy of a nomination.
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Originally posted by Kevin S View PostSinfield was a bonkers pick though, and I say that even as someone who enjoys the odd bit of RL.
edit - full disclosure: at the time I was quite excited by the fact he got nominated and the surprisingly large vote he got, but in reality it didn't feel like his vote was 'geniune' and was rather a plug for the sport instead.
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Good result though it was, has yesterday's game really had that much of an impact? It's not even amongst the top 15 stories on the BBC Sport website right now, for instance.
Not to say that Kane won't win necessarily - just that I'm not sure if a crucial factor will be a game at a less than full Wembley, shown on Sky and in a tournament the English football public warmed to at about 4:40pm yesterday.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 19-11-2018, 14:03.
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I'm not sure if it does or doesn't.
Basically, I don't think anyone knows or can say how the Nations League is going to do in the long run. On the one hand there's its being ignored by the BBC website (though 5 Live were certainly enjoying the moment at the time) and on the other we've got folk at Eurosport saying that this has revitalised international breaks at a stroke - although obviously it hasn't actually saved football (which they clarify in the article).
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The BBC website was all over yesterday's game at the time too, I think the speed with which it's plummeted off/down the front page is telling though. Anecdotally, nobody in my office full of English football fans of varying intensity has mentioned it to me today which seems significant.
I'm not sure an opinion piece a quarter of the way down Eurosport's site (a relatively small/niche one in the UK, I'd guess) is especially illustrative of much. Particularly as it's about the tournament itself rather than yesterday's game (though clearly the profile of both are inter-linked), though I do think the Nations League has generally been a surprisingly welcome development.
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The shortlist from which Geraint will be chosen as the Welsh SPOTY has been announced ;
Footballer Gareth Bale, cyclists Elinor Barker and Geraint Thomas, Winter Olympian skeleton athlete Laura Deas, Paralympic skier Menna Fitzpatrick and snooker player Mark Williams.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 26-11-2018, 16:18.
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He would surely need to address his comments on..... blimey, where do you want to start, homosexuality, transgender people, Jews, women, and absolutely everything else, first.
Given how impressive he's been inside and outside the ring recently, now would be an absolutely ideal time to start.
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Originally posted by diggedy derek View PostHe would surely need to address his comments on..... blimey, where do you want to start, homosexuality, transgender people, Jews, women, and absolutely everything else, first.
Given how impressive he's been inside and outside the ring recently, now would be an absolutely ideal time to start.
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Jimmy Anderson
Dina Asher Smith
Lewis Hamilton
Harry Kane
Geraint Thomas
Lizzy YarnoldLast edited by Duncan Gardner; 16-12-2018, 19:40.
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