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    Ray, Romania had qualified after Spain lost the match with the Romanian ref to Belgium. That result put Spain in the playoff against Portugal. Russia got Romania's place in the Finals, and Germany got Spain's place in the repechage.

    Romania hasn't missed many Finals before.

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    Ah, that’s what I was trying to say but erroneously used Romania instead of Spain regarding the play-off.

    My main point was that Belgium didn’t lose out to Russia, as they were below them in the table anyway, but lost out in a notional chance to take Spain’s play-off spot had they not been found guilty of the same offence.

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    The Belgian case seems the most clear cut (and numerous) of the ineligible players. They don't even seem to be disputing it, they just want any fine limited to an amount that won't immediately bankrupt their union.
    Under strict liability, Romania don't look like they have much hope. The guy had played 7s for Tonga, playing 7s is enough to tie him to Tonga, but Romania never seemingly asked him about 7s or investigated it as a possibility. It's not quite Sharapova 'I didn't read the updated banned substances list' levels in egregiousness, but it's still looks a failure to discharge their responsibilities.
    Spain are the ones who might have a case, as strict liability there seems to be only running one way. You must follow the rules as they are written, apart from the areas where we subsequently decide they were mis-written when you must read between the lines, understand our underlying intentions and abide by those. CAS might ride to their rescue.
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    Think youíre being a bit generous to Spain there Janik. Under their interpretation the next most senior team for France didnít exist for four years.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus arctos View Post
    Ray, Romania had qualified after Spain lost the match with the Romanian ref to Belgium. That result put Spain in the playoff against Portugal. Russia got Romania's place in the Finals, and Germany got Spain's place in the repechage.

    Romania hasn't missed many Finals before.
    They've not missed any, in fact. Qualified for every tournament before today.

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    World Rugby's admission in its report that it *might* be a good idea to have a database of captured players is rather shocking. Yeah, no shit guys, what the fuck have you been doing?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Ray de Galles View Post
    Can't see any problem with that, especially if it stops the player drain.

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    Pro14 and English Premiership play-off semi-finals this weekend. Glasgow v Scarlets tonight, Saracens v Franchise RFC tomorrow lunchtime and Leinster v Munster & Exeter v Newcastle tomorrow afternoon.

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    Scarlets are the only team to win away in the PRO14 and PRO12 semis, both sides have lost their first choice 15s in the run up to the game. It looks lovely in Glasgow this evening and I'm looking forward to the match.

    Wales have lost three England based players for their summer tour as the premiership refused to allow players to be released outside of the test window. The three are Tomas Francis, Luke Charteris and Josh Adams. George North and Ross Moriarty would have been affected but they have negotiated an early release from their contracts.

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    Perfect start for the Scarlets and ill discipline from Glasgow.

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    The Scarlets are on fire, three tries already and looking magnificent. The game is being played at a ridiculous pace.

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    Scarlets are playing unlike any other European side with their running lines, handling, and offloads. They’re like a Southern Hemisphere team but strong in the set piece.
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    Leinster Scarlets in the PRO14 and Saracens Exeter in the premiership finals.

    I really hope the Scarlets turn up and Leinster have a few injuries otherwise it could be very one sided.

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