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    The establishment must be shitting itself, with these attacks on the most marginalized people in Europe.

    There'll be much more of this. Looks like the plan could be to swallow the Eurozone "medicine" and keep people onside with this stuff.

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      Originally posted by Tubby Isaacs View Post
      The establishment must be shitting itself, with these attacks on the most marginalized people in Europe.

      There'll be much more of this. Looks like the plan could be to swallow the Eurozone "medicine" and keep people onside with this stuff.
      If they are the most marginalized people in Europe then at least partly it's by their own choice. They always were cheating, begging, stealing and drug dealing bastards in Latvia. One of their leaders had seat in parliament and he publicly said that they shouldn't be prosecuted for drug dealing crimes because they had hard life - oh, yes, but why they took children out of school after year two or three, who's choice was that? They wanted to live so.

      The most important fact is that they lived similarly even in Soviet Union where you should have to work or be prosecuted so it wasn't easy task to be cheating, begging, stealing and drug dealing bastards but they managed it.

      After EU, open borders etc they went to greener pastures so now they are, most probably, problem of UK or Ireland. Yes, bastards are not nationality but percentage of bastards in their community were much, much bigger.

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        How about we all make things better?

        More from Italy. That's a fall of 80% in "migrant" "arrivals" in the last 12 months.



        And here's the anti-Italian German Government taking by far the biggest number of transfers. Meanwhile nationalist allies, Hungary, take zero.



        Fucking populist idiots.

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          Salvini is going after vaccines today.

          This is not going to end well.

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            Is there any votes in that?

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              It certainly sold papers for many years over here.

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                It did.

                Is the Five Star bloke (Steadman, or whatever his name is) actually doing or saying anything at the moment?

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                  Salvini is very conciously absorbing virtually all of the political oxygen in the country right now, but Di Maio did say today that the country can't afford Universal Basic Income.

                  And the M5S health minister is attacking Salvini.

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                    Not a great situation where the M5S guy is the voice of reason.

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                      Who would disaffected M5S voters go to, if that's not a silly question?

                      I'm shocked and stunned that Italy can't afford UBI at a reasonably subsistence level.

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                        The Lega, so far.

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                          They will most likely return to the parties they originally supported, as they are doing in the muncipalities where M5S administrations have failed to deliver.

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                            GY is right that the M5S will lose voters to the Lega, especially in areas of the country that aren't familiar with them. In part, that reflects the current weakness of both the centre left and centre right.

                            It's a mess.

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                              Here's hoping. (Not the Lega, obviously).

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                                The French PS-style implosion of the PD continued in this weekend's municipal elections, with the centre-left losing a significant number of municipalities in its heartland of Emilia-Romagna and Tuscany that it had controlled for decades.

                                Here's a map of Tuscany (centre-left in red)

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                                  Originally posted by gintsr View Post
                                  If they are the most marginalized people in Europe then at least partly it's by their own choice. They always were cheating, begging, stealing and drug dealing bastards in Latvia. One of their leaders had seat in parliament and he publicly said that they shouldn't be prosecuted for drug dealing crimes because they had hard life - oh, yes, but why they took children out of school after year two or three, who's choice was that? They wanted to live so.

                                  The most important fact is that they lived similarly even in Soviet Union where you should have to work or be prosecuted so it wasn't easy task to be cheating, begging, stealing and drug dealing bastards but they managed it.

                                  After EU, open borders etc they went to greener pastures so now they are, most probably, problem of UK or Ireland. Yes, bastards are not nationality but percentage of bastards in their community were much, much bigger.
                                  What's this shite?

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                                    Originally posted by EIM View Post
                                    What's this shite?
                                    Firsthand experience with "the most marginalized people in Europe".

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                                      You know, about ten years ago a post like that wouldn't have been allowed to stand on OTF. But your drivel was up for a week and only got challenged once. I guess that's normalisation for you.

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                                        I challenged it right below it.

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                                          Yeah. Really by "challenged" I meant SSS would have called him a cunt.

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                                            Yeah that's a fair point.

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                                              As gintsr only ever seems to post "controversial" opinions on here, I thought it wasn't worth engaging with him. The cunt.

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                                                I'd not noticed him before.

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                                                  Not Italy, but an example of some Rroma marginalisation (I imagine gintsr feels that this guy deserved to be murdered) https://www.aljazeera.com/indepth/fe...175419541.html

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                                                    Awful.

                                                    Meanwhile in Italy, Beppe Grillo is pushing a conspiracy theory about a disease that threatens olive growing. The Left and the Right are behind it. Though presumably not the Right his party are in government with.

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