This is just a circus, right?
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To quote someone else, possibly from here, "there is no possible result that isn't absolutely hilarious". Mayweather sparks McGregor in two rounds, McGregor is a loud-mouthed idiot, McGregor lasts all twelve and Mayweather looks an idiot, McGregor wins, boxing dies.
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Originally posted by Ray de Galles View Postb) why is it "hilarious" if boxing dies?
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Originally posted by Hot Pepsi View PostWhy does the smart money assume McGregor has no chance?
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The pundits reckon Mayweather will string it out for a few rounds because there's no point taking risks and an early KO would expose the farce even more. Could conceivably go to points, which could only be in Mayweather's favour, so again he has no incentive to risk anything.
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Association of Ringside Physicians denounce farce.
“We were very surprised this bout was even sanctioned and was going to be permitted to carry on,” said Larry Lovelace, a doctor and the president of the organization, which is focused on preserving fighter safety. “The thing I really fear, truly fear, is that somebody’s going to get really hurt in this upcoming fight.”
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I remember being given a Jimmy Reid essay on the barbarity of boxing (and the class and race dimension) as an English exam question for Standard Grade (16). Was mind blowing, the best, most enjoyable exam I ever had. Probably spent too long reading the damn thing though. Can't find it online but. He was arguing from ethical, medical, moral, and on quietly Marxist class/race grounds as well, for boxing to be banned. But admitted the undoubted artistry and bravery that creates awe, however uncomfortable, in it. I don't see any of that in MMA. It's a coursening, an apathy to potential fatality, we're all fuckin jaded and Roman. It's as stupid as wrestling but with added spicy special wrestling moves. And more blood and threat of death right there in the ring.
Don King might have dragged boxing simultaneously to the sewer and Vince McMahon style showbiz, but MMA seems even worse. Normalizing brutality. The shit made illegal in the fucking 1880s.Last edited by Lang Spoon; 25-08-2017, 21:31.
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I find that my colleagues who witter on about MMA and McGregor are the types who don't really like sport, and who tend to also blather on about superhero movies and the like.
They are convinced he's going to win, probably because they know nothing about sport.
Mayweather can pick which round he wants to end it, he'll probably have been encouraged to let it drag on for 8 or 9 rounds to give the pay per view morons* value for money and make the event seem like a genuine and worthwhile exercise.
* No offence to any OTFers who are forking out. Well some offence but moron might be a bit strong.
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- Mar 2008
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- An oasis in the middle of Somerset
- Bath City FC; Porthcawl RFC;Wales in most things.
- Fig roll - deal with it.
Originally posted by Snake Plissken View PostIf one of the sports GOAT gets clobbered...
As for the circus, I hope both fighters lose. Especially in the year that we saw one of the best fights in recent years between two excellent, dignified and respectful boxers.
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- Mar 2008
- 29883
- An oasis in the middle of Somerset
- Bath City FC; Porthcawl RFC;Wales in most things.
- Fig roll - deal with it.
Originally posted by Antepli Ejderha View PostWhy have they been allowed to where light weight gloves which can potentially do more damage?
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Originally posted by Snake Plissken View PostBecause I'm a huge fan of cosmic irony. If one of the sports GOAT gets clobbered by an Irish chancer where a lot of other boxers, who have trained and prepared their entire lives, have failed then how the hell boxing could consider itself the premier combat sport after that, I don't know.
Admittedly he has a wonderful, defensive technique and that one element has seen him through a career but we will not be talking about him in ten years, let alone fifty - unless it's as part of a low point for the sport.Last edited by Ray de Galles; 26-08-2017, 01:00.
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Ultimately, fuck this shit. I was quite proud it hadn't been referred to on here at all in the build up, am very disappointed we even have a thread on it and ashamed of myself for biting and responding to it.
Let's just delete it, ignore the pathetic Trumpian farce and any reference to it and talk about GGG v Carnelo instead.
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From what I've seen on Youtube, McGregor has his hands low when moving around, which is necessary for being able to use the feet in kickboxing. It's totally the wrong stance for a boxer; the balance is way off and the feet are not planted properly. Ali got away with low hands when he was younger because he had freakish reflexes for a big guy but that was built on countless hours as an amateur then in rookie pro fights, and he had at least one scare due to being sloppy (being floored by Henry Cooper).
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During their Shit Talking Express hype tour for the fight, McGregor said to Mayweather "dance for me, boy," something that a lot of people took to be racist because of "boy," while others said "boy" was used in just an Irish English slang way. He also, unfortunately, said that he couldn't be racist because he was half black...pause...."i'm black from the belly button down!" He also gave an interview with someone who asked about Rocky III and said "is that the one with the dancing monkeys in the gym?"
He's had past comments which could be interpreted as racist. He called Nate Diaz a "cholo from the hood." And this astounding quote before fighting the Brazilian Jose Aldo: "I own this town, I own Rio de Janeiro. I would invade his favela on horseback and would kill anyone who wasn’t fit to work, but we’re in a new time, so I’ll whoop his ass instead."
Maybe he's just purely ignorant about the connotations of what he's said, and he just meant it in a general trash talking way to disrespect and opponent. If that was the case, it's quite remarkable that he innocently manages to accidentally say things that a lot of people find to be racist, over and over again.
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It sounds as if both combatants are hideously unappealing and obnoxious personalities, which is of course a big negative around this event, but there's a fascinating cross-code experimental quality to it. Reminds me of the Bath v Wigan fixtures at league and union a couple of decades ago.
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