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Originally posted by seand View Post...The entry of Saarbrucken (Saar/GER) was a special case (and one of our never-champions)
... Gwardia (POL) Never-champs ...
To answer Alex’s stream of consciousness musings on potential European Cup era never-champions, there was no Vaduz and no San Marino ‘champions’. No former Soviet/Yugoslav states nominating non-champions.
I'm done then. Chapping.
Originally posted by seand View PostAnd by my calculation we still have 11 Champions League era never-champs to find:
Spain (Mallorca, Villarreal, Osasuna, Malaga) + 1
CRO x1
POR (Boavista, Vitoria) +2
NOR x1
CZE x2
UKR (Metalist) + 1
RUS x2
AUT x1
So here are my not-looked-it-up-on-wiki-or-owt-else guesses.
Only one I'm certain has played in the Champions League is Celta Vigo. Only ones I'm sure have never been national champions are Maritimo and Braga coz it's only the big three, Belenenses and Boavista have ever won the Portugese league (we wannabe anoraks learn that like "i before e except after c").
Some of these guesses - if my almost phonetic spelling can even communicate which club I'm referring to - might not even be from the countries cited.
Spain: Celta Vigo
CRO: Riejka
POR: Braga and Maritimo
NOR: Molde
CZE: Bohemians Praha and Viktoria Zizkov
UKR: That Zorya Luhansk mob who have a badge which looks like a flattened-out Tunnocks Tea Cake wrapper.
RUS: Alania Vladikavkaz and Krasnodar.
AUT: FK/FC Graz (i.e, Not Sturm Graz - the other one)Last edited by Alex Anderson; 13-12-2017, 13:08. Reason: In Portugal they say "'B' clubs times three; a 'P', Sport clube dee"
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HNK Rijeka are reigning Croatian champions, their first ever league title, but they had two seasons in the CWC from 1978-80 as a result of winning and retaining the Yugoslav FA Cup. Played Wrexham in one of those years, as I think was mentioned when we discussed the CL qualifiers in July.
EDIT: However, they played in the qualifiers as non-champions in 1999-2000. Molde did so in the same season, not winning the Norwegian championship until 2011.
I'm not sure why it took more than a decade for these sides to progress from domestic runners up to champions.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 13-12-2017, 14:30.
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Fair play Alex, you've struck with the insouciant certainty of a club darts player nailing 180s after a skinful of pints. Celta (never champs) TICK. Braga (never champs) TICK. Rijeka (CL 99, league title 2017) TICK. Grazer AK (CL 02-3, title 03-4) TICK.
The rest of the carpet bombing was a little less successful however.
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Aye, ye cannae teach yer aul da anything about guessing from the oche. Keep yer TICKS - I'll take four times "GER-rinthere!"
Wiz sure about Celta and Braga but stunned to be right about Grazer AK (and yer being generous there seany, as I couldn't remember their actual name) if I hadn't seen them at Ibrox in the UEFA Cup.
But I will retire now. Plzen. I resent the carpet bombing implication. Dnipro Dnipropetrovsk. I felt it more of a targeted, near forensic assault. Sigma Olomuc. A gentleman like myself - Torpedo Moscow - would never dilute the glory of playing the game - Lynn Oslo - by loading the dice unfairly. Banik Ostrava. So I'll go now. Chernomorets.
All the best.
Guimaraes.
Lots of love.
Lokomotiv Moscow.
Goodnight.
Odd Grenland.
God Bless.
AMKAR FUCKING PERM!!!
Rubin Kazan.Last edited by Alex Anderson; 13-12-2017, 19:06. Reason: They would maybe still have been Dnepr when first entering the comp.
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Red Star lost every match of their 2007-08 UEFA Cup group. Brugge are the only runners-up I have found who obtained nil points in a Champions League group.Last edited by Satchmo Distel; 14-12-2017, 14:36.
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I suppose Forest and Villa are technically the biggest former champion "failures" in the Champions League era as they remain the only winners of the old brand never to appear in the new.
Although HSV's two appearances have resulted in just two wins, three draws and zero progressions.
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Right, let get this over and done with, never-champions in the CL era:
One of the missing answers was hidden in plain view- Shakhtar Donetsk made the CL bow on the coat tails of Dinamo Kiev in 2000, before winning a first title in 2002. The Russian representative was Rostov- CL debut last season, never won the league. The other three are the wonderfully obscure Czechs never-champions Teplice (runners up 99, lost to Celtic) and Mlada Boleslav (runners up 06) and Potugeezers Pacos de Ferreira. Didn't get that one? Don't worry, it was a surprise to their Wiki biographer "In the 2012–13 season, the team surprisingly finished third and qualified for the 2013–14 UEFA Champions League play-offs". I’ll get back to the EC era shortly
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So who would get the invitations if UEFA had a sponsored brainwave after a liquid lunch, and inaugurated a competition to be entered by ONE club from each country/league (don't pedant that, it's got old), the only criteria being ... have never played in the EC/CL, but are the next cab off the rank?
Hire your best lawyers and make the case based on historical status (only since 1955), very near misses or general giant sleepiness.
First nomination: Spain - Espanyol.
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- Apr 2011
- 2053
- A bottom-bottom wata-wata in Lake Titicaca
- Atlético Machu Picchu, Lake Titicaca Pan flutes FC
- Buñuelos Arequipeños
My turn to have a go...
Before Cristiano Ronaldo equalled my record (in 2017), I was the only player to have scored in 3 different C1 cup finals. Who am I?Last edited by Pérou Flaquettes; 14-12-2017, 22:58.
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