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On a completely unrelated topic - just off the top of my head, like ... merely thinking out loud here ... isn't it amazing to think James Rodriguez never played in a Champions League final ... and that Matthias Sammer and Ulf Kirsten both played for the DFB as well as for what were once considered "West German" clubs in the Champions League final ...
Anyway - back to the question in hand:
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostI'm not sure just how Alex is treating the former Yugoslavs, but how about Stefan Savić for Montenegro?
He's never played for another country, and was less than ten when they became independent.
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As it stands:
Mario Lemina – Gabon – Juventus 2017
Keylor Navas - Costa Rica – Real Madrid 2016 and 2017
Arturo Vidal – Chile – Juventus 2015
Park Ji-Sung – South Korea – Man United 2009 and 2011
Antonio Valencia – Ecuador – Man United 2011
Alexander Hleb – Belorussia - Arsenal 2006
Harry Kewell - Australia - Liverpool 2005 and 2007
Dmitri Alenichev – Russia – Porto 2004
Benni McCarthy – South Africa – Porto 2004
Shabani Nonda - DRC – AS Monaco 2004
Kakha Kaladze – Georgia - Milan 2003 and 2007
Dwight Yorke – Trinidad and Tobago - Man United 1999
Vata (Matanu Garcia) – Angola – Benfica 1990
Rabah Madjer – Algeria – Porto 1987
Bruce Grobbelaar – Rhodesia and Zimbabwe – Liverpool 1984 and 85
Massimo Bonini - San Marino – Juventus 1983 and 1985
Victor Benitez – Peru – Milan 1963
Three to go: One "wow!", one "fair enough - never heard of him" and a "Fuck off - not having that".
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Originally posted by Bill Bones View PostJuan Cuadrado came off the bench for Juventus in Cardiff so that rules out James.
I'm now going to duck as I hear the objections re Di Stefano ...
Originally posted by Bill Bones View PostIs David Alaba the only Austrian?
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Originally posted by Flynnie View PostOK, I've got a really obscure one. Hajry Redouane, in one of his handful of appearances for Benfica, came on as a sub in the 1988 final.
Edit: he's Moroccan.
Hajry Redouane of Morocco came on for Benfica with 8 minutes of extra time remaining of the 1988 final against PSV in Stuttgart. Scored in the shoot-out.
Well done, Flynnie. Belter.
JUST ONE TO GO (clues have been given - recently ...)
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Originally posted by Southport Zeb View PostThought I'd got one of the missing ones, but McDonald Mariga (Kenya) didn't come off the bench for Inter in 2010.Last edited by Alex Anderson; 20-11-2017, 18:36. Reason: swings and roundabouts, really. And benches. Mostly benches.
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Originally posted by seand View PostI was thinking Belgium briefly.... not many at all given their strength but Eric Gerets and Yannick Carasco for two. None of the rest of the current golden generation have been there I think
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Originally posted by ursus arctos View PostI sure as hell hope not.
Joceyln Angloma has at least played official matches for Guadeloupe.
But my unilaterally decided (and comprehended) criteria for the FYR republics might make the final player all the more infuriating ...
Right. I'm scared about this. But - as ursus clears up everyone else's incorrect guesses, shortly before he throttles me - any more final guesses based on that last convoluted clue?
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- Jan 2015
- 9700
- Wrexham... ish
- R. + R. McReynold's Travelling Circus, The Jurgen Klopp Farewell Tour XI, Page's Boys
- Ginger Nut
I'm guessing that Nachtweih is the "no, not having that one" answer as that's what West Germany said to him, therefore he was in some kind of international purgatory as he couldn't go back to the east. Technically you could consider him a footballer of NO NATIONALITY.
Am I close?
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Norbert Nachtweih, East Germany, played the whole of the 1987 final for Bayern Munich in Vienna against Porto.
He is, 3 Colours - he is the "fuck off" answer but ... right! - okay! Come on, lads - settle down - we've all had a few drinks [who threw that??!! Spitting ??!!- at your age, ursus??!! ... that's out of order!] ... listen ... just hear me out:
I'm considering him the only purely,solely, as-far-as-football-was-concerned, DDR national - and international, at U-21 level - to have played in the final. His defection seals it for me.
From Wiki:
"Even though he was one of the best German footballers in the 1980s, FIFA formalities forbade a career in the West German national team, as he had previously appeared with East Germany."
I know, Sammer and Kirsten (maybe others I've missed) played for both the DDR and the "re-unified" Germany (i.e., the DFB absorbing their Eastern counterparts in the same way the countries "re-unified") and we had guys like Jens Jeremeis, Carsten Jancker and Michael Ballack who were born in the DDR but were of an age where their international career would only be for the DFB.
But Nachtweih, though still playing, was too old to play for the DFB by the time the wall fell down and the DDR disappeared.
He's the only East German to have played in the final who didn't then go on to play for "Germany" Germany. Ropey but - ach - feels right to me.
All objections to this address.
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