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    How does a Test ground like Edgbaston still lose a day's play due to a wet outfield in 2017? No supermops, etc?

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      Middlesex have complained about the pitch, the whining chancers. Hopefully this transparent ruse will be seen through by the powers that be, but as it's Middlesex, that may not happen. I really really want them to go down now.

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        Middlesex would do well to remember the circumstances in how they won the title last year.

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          Surrey's declaration when 8 down is rather cheeky, but they can probably justify it in the context of the match and conditions yesterday evening.

          The upshot at the moment though is it means Lancashire, three points behind them in third place, score only two of the three bowling points.

          The Guardian notes that 'The gulf in prize money for second (£240,000) and third (£115,000) place was on show'.

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            Why are England so quiet about Jack Leach, asks Botham.

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              Originally posted by Kevin S View Post
              Surrey's declaration when 8 down is rather cheeky, but they can probably justify it in the context of the match and conditions yesterday evening.

              The upshot at the moment though is it means Lancashire, three points behind them in third place, score only two of the three bowling points.

              The Guardian notes that 'The gulf in prize money for second (£240,000) and third (£115,000) place was on show'.
              I did wonder about that. I also thought you weren't allowed to do that sort of thing.

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                Disappointingly Middlesex have recovered from 22/5 to 76/5. They must be a bit conflicted though - by getting bowled out incredibly cheaply they could have used that as evidence in their spurious claims about the pitch. Now they;ve got a few they can no longer do that.

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                  Middlesex 127/8 at lunch, 109 behind Somerset.
                  Warwickshire are 79/5 against Hampshire.

                  Championship points in the ongoing relegation scrap so far:

                  County, previous + batting + bowling (* in progress)
                  Middlesex, 143 + 0* + 3
                  Hampshire, 140 + 0* + 1*
                  Somerset, 127 + 1 + 2*

                  In the other Division One matches, Surrey's declaration looks more justified as Lancashire are 84/5. And Yorkshire are 90/6, which is 137 behind Essex.
                  Last edited by Kevin S; 26-09-2017, 12:06.

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                    If Somerset win, they will have four to Middlesex's three and could get away with being level on points with them. Therefore Middlesex will be safe if they have a 17 point lead after the first innings are completed.

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                      From the BBC OBO :

                      The pitch is still offering plenty of turn and bounce, and there is still the decision of the ECB's Wayne Noon to come on its acceptability, which we've been promised at close of play and could yet spoil Somerset's day.

                      Middlesex complained to the match's cricket liaison officer about the state of the Taunton pitch last night.

                      A further announcement is expected later today. Points may or may not be deducted. That's all I have at the moment I'm afraid!
                      They're not going to potentially relegate them based on it, surely?
                      Last edited by Ray de Galles; 26-09-2017, 12:22.

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                        The cynic in me thinks they'll wait to see how Hampshire are getting on. If Middlesex are safe based on action elsewhere they will not do anything about the Somerset pitch. If however they look in danger of relegation...

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                          I was going to make the same comment, they'll see if if the punishment is a gesture or has any real consequence before making it.

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                            Middlesex 142 all out. Shit gets real.

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                            Middlesex - 146
                            Hampshire - 140 + 0* + 1*
                            Somerset - 131
                            Last edited by Kevin S; 26-09-2017, 12:46.

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                              Wouldn't it be terrible if Andrew Strauss's Middlesex were relegated?

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                                Originally posted by Haddock View Post
                                Wouldn't it be terrible if Andrew Strauss's Middlesex were relegated?

                                Stop it.

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                                  Trescothick gets his 19000th run for Somerset. That is not a typo.

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                                    Warwickshire are 112/6 which means Hampshire now have 2 bowling points.

                                    Somerset are 27/2, so 121 ahead.

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                                      Essex could be looking at 10 wins and 4 draws, as Yorkshire are all gone for 111, a deficit of 116 before the second innings.

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                                        Meanwhile in Division 2. Despite losing a day to rain, Northants still in the race to go up as they reduce Leicestershire to 26/7 (sigh) before a waggle at the end sees the Foxes reach an imposing 128 all out. Not sure what the permutations are for the final promotion spot, but the visitors certainly giving it a go, albeit against a horribly weak and woeful team.

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                                          Here's the ECB Pitch Document 2017 (PDF download).

                                          Consensus on the radio commentary is that Taunton's bounce is not excessive or uneven and there won't be a points deduction.

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                                            Division Two
                                            Worcestershire 293/7 v Durham
                                            Sussex 508/7 v Notts (past 110 overs now)
                                            Leicestershire 128 all out v Northants 30/0

                                            Points
                                            Worcs = 216 + 2* + 0*
                                            Notts = 210 + 0* + 2
                                            Northants = 197 + 0* + 3

                                            So with the bowling points known for Notts and Northants, the latter are 12 points behind.

                                            Theoretically Northants could still get 21 more points (giving 221) if they make 400+ runs in 110 overs and get the win. This means Worcestershire need four more points to seal promotion. They'll get one of those when they break 300 runs.
                                            Last edited by Kevin S; 26-09-2017, 13:50.

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                                              Worcestershire have now hit 300 and chalk up another batting point.

                                              Sussex are doing Northants a mighty favour here. Why haven't they played like this all season? They could be going up themselves.

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                                                Meanwhile in the silver medal match where Surrey declared on 201/8, Lancashire are about to reach that score with only six wickets lost.

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                                                  Tea at Taunton with Somerset 70/3, a lead of 164.

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                                                    Warwickshire are all out for 188, so Hampshire have collected all 3 bowling points.

                                                    Updated points

                                                    Middlesex = 146 + result
                                                    Hampshire = 143 + batting + result
                                                    Somerset = 131 + result
                                                    Last edited by Kevin S; 26-09-2017, 14:42.

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