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    #51
    The ultimate question - the debate continues...

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      #52
      The ultimate question - the debate continues...

      antoine polus wrote:
      Originally posted by Hot Pepsi
      Other than the lobster roll, I can't think of anything referred to as a roll in America.
      Cinnamon roll.

      Fruit Roll up
      Right. I meant, we don't have anything that could possibly qualify as a sandwich called a roll, except the lobster roll.

      If the unit of bread that holds the sandwich together is baked as a single unit and then sliced to create space for whatever is on the sandwich, that bread thing is often called a roll or a bun. But the whole thing is never called a roll, except, as far as I know, in the case of the lobster roll which is, traditionally, made on a standard white-bread hotdog bun.

      I don't think there's any distinction between bun and roll. Maybe regional, but I don't know.

      After all, the ne plus ul·tra of cinnamon rolls is what they sell at Cinnabon, but it's usually pronounced cinna-bun.

      Referenced here;
      https://www.nbc.com/saturday-night-live/video/goth-talk-goldblum/2861305?snl=1

      Here;
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fp-j72ALHHs

      And here.
      https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZRQnC7REn2Y

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        #53
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        Aha, I understand. So rolls exist in the US, but only as a bread accessory that, at the most, might be sliced open and buttered, but definitely not used as a delivery method for meats and vegetables.

        So that must be why it is a burger 'bun', and not a burger 'roll.'

        edit: I've walked past a number of Cinnabons at US airports and thought of Louis CK. One day I will relent.

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          #54
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          Huh...Cinnabon reminds me of Saul Goodman.

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            #55
            The ultimate question - the debate continues...

            I am thoroughly confused. Can somebody please draw me a Venn diagram? Thanks in advance.

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              #56
              The ultimate question - the debate continues...

              antoine polus wrote:
              Originally posted by Hot Pepsi
              Other than the lobster roll, I can't think of anything referred to as a roll in America.
              Cinnamon roll.

              Fruit Roll up
              Swiss roll.

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                #57
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                Christ on a bike. This thread was still on page 1 when I left it this afternoon, exhausted by my taxonomic research. I come back and find the sandwich debate has gone nuclear in just a couple of hours. Wow.

                I've got a lovely mental picture of Wouter's comestibles Venn diagram now.

                That wasn't meant to be a euphemism either. Mmm, bread hinge.

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                  #58
                  The ultimate question - the debate continues...

                  Oh, and VT, before anyone asks: "Push him down an Alp."

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                    #59
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                    SEXIST!

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                      #60
                      The ultimate question - the debate continues...

                      antoine polus wrote: Aha, I understand. So rolls exist in the US, but only as a bread accessory that, at the most, might be sliced open and buttered, but definitely not used as a delivery method for meats and vegetables.

                      So that must be why it is a burger 'bun', and not a burger 'roll.'

                      edit: I've walked past a number of Cinnabons at US airports and thought of Louis CK. One day I will relent.
                      A hamburger could be on a roll if it's especially high quality/something special like a kaiser roll. And the bread for subs is usually called a roll. I can't see any rhyme or reason to what is called a roll versus bun other than tradition and those seemingly random language conventions.

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                        Gerontophile wrote: SEXIST!
                        Heheh, yeah I was thinking of that possibility even as I typed my previous post. Apologies to hypothetical Swiss persons this time.

                        Mmmm, hypothetical Swiss roll...

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                          #62
                          More Jaffa Cake news.

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                            #63
                            That's pretty poor form, given that they're not (so they say), increasing the unit cost. It's just creating more packaging waste.

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