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    Indeed

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    And Bonds hit 73*.

    Cracking extras win for the Cubs last night at Milwaukee.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerontophile View Post
    And Bonds hit 73*.
    Right. I shouldn't say that nobody cared, but it felt anticlimactic and inevitable and not really worthy of celebration outside of San Francisco, and even there I couldnt' see why they were so enthusiastic given that he was just eating up a lot of salary that could have been going to rebuilding the team.

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    There was the small matter of him being the most dominant hitter the game has ever seen . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerontophile View Post
    Cracking extras win for the Cubs last night at Milwaukee.
    Harrumph...

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    Only one game out of the Wild Card, which would have been seen as Nirvana during Spring Training . . .

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrLeam View Post
    Harrumph...
    Well, you had a lead going into the ninth...

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    Quote Originally Posted by ursus arctos View Post
    There was the small matter of him being the most dominant hitter the game has ever seen . . .
    I wouldn't rate that as important under the circumstances.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Gerontophile View Post
    Well, you had a lead going into the ninth...
    Yeah. Certainly can't complain with this season, even if the wild card is fading away somewhat. The things that haven't gone so well (hello, Neftali!) have been well and truly surpassed by those that have. Our starting pitching has held up way better than expected, our bullpen has regularly locked things down, we absolutely fleeced the Red Sox for Travis Shaw and we've got decent young players come through for the first time since Prince/Braun in the mid-2000's...

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    Is this the longest Maddon has left a starter in all season?

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    Lester pitched a complete game in May.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Hot Pepsi View Post
    I wouldn't rate that as important under the circumstances.
    The impression I had of Giants fans at the time was that the team became less important than promoting the achievements of Barry Bonds and defending his reputation against anything written or said about him in the media, a lot of which was based on "he's not a nice guy and he doesn't want to market the game, so we don't like him." There seemed to be a combination from Giants fans of "nobody likes us and we don't care" and also "how can you not see that Bonds is one of the greatest hitters of all time?"

    It has to be said, pretty much every slugger at the time was juiced, but no one came close to what Bonds was able to do, and a lot of equally dirty players with about 1/2 of the talent of him still have careers in the game and weren't told to go away like Bonds was.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Incandenza View Post
    The impression I had of Giants fans at the time was that the team became less important than promoting the achievements of Barry Bonds and defending his reputation against anything written or said about him in the media, a lot of which was based on "he's not a nice guy and he doesn't want to market the game, so we don't like him." There seemed to be a combination from Giants fans of "nobody likes us and we don't care" and also "how can you not see that Bonds is one of the greatest hitters of all time?"

    It has to be said, pretty much every slugger at the time was juiced, but no one came close to what Bonds was able to do, and a lot of equally dirty players with about 1/2 of the talent of him still have careers in the game and weren't told to go away like Bonds was.
    He was more interesting to watch early in his career, especially when he was on competitive teams.
    The novelty of the big home run numbers, especially once the steroids was no longer deniable, wore off pretty fast.

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