The Brexit Thread

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

Brexit debate in January.

Another hoof of the can down the road. May is expected to make a statement in the House on Monday, which could see things kick off again next week. The German parliament has voted in favour of a motion which states that ‘it would be an illusion to hope that a rejection of the deal could lead to renegotiations' - and by the way why can't our parliamentary motions be worded like this - and the rest of the key players are holding firm, so she'll have fuck all in the way of progress to report on Monday.

[Benjm]

Brexit debate in January.

Honest, guv!

[Tubby Isaacs]

Jimmy Hill.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Another hoof of the can down the road. May is expected to make a statement in the House on Monday, which could see things kick off again next week. The German parliament has voted in favour of a motion which states that ‘it would be an illusion to hope that a rejection of the deal could lead to renegotiations' - and by the way why can't our parliamentary motions be worded like this - and the rest of the key players are holding firm, so she'll have fuck all in the way of progress to report on Monday.

I like that wording too but they probably need to draw us a picture.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

Chris Waddle tweeted last night "well done Theresa May, now let's leave with no deal", but has since deleted it.

That's the Chris Waddle who consistently says "pelanty" instead of "penalty", despite his particular familiarity with the word, and said on the radio the other night that Liverpool would be "weary of Napoli's midfield" (but that Liverpool could easily win the game 5-0).

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

That's the Chris Waddle who consistently says "pelanty" instead of "penalty", despite his particular familiarity with the word, and said on the radio the other night that Liverpool would be "weary of Napoli's midfield" (but that Liverpool could easily win the game 5-0).

In fairness, that wasn't too inaccurate. Liverpool could easily have won the game 5-0 given the chances that Mane and Salah squandered, and Liverpool did need to be er, weary of Napoli's midfield and were nearly knocked out.

One of the things that is most depressing about brexit, is the relentless drip drip effect of having to come to terms with the knowledge that an ever expanding group of people that you previously had generally positive feelings about, are dangerous idiots.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

One of the things that is most depressing about brexit, is the relentless drip drip effect of having to come to terms with the knowledge that an ever expanding group of people that you previously had generally positive feelings about, are dangerous idiots.

See also Michael Vaughan, yesterday.

[johnr]

And Peter Shilton (though I never had many positive thoughts about him anyway.)

[Flynnie]

Are we 100% sure Waddle was serious? I saw it questioned as possibly being an attempt at black humour.

Whereas we know Shilton and co are bloody Tories.

[The Awesome Berbaslug!!!]

Well it's going to be hard to expect anything else off a bunch of people who have been making their living out of Italia 90 nostalgia.

[Disco Child Ballads]

I was distressed to learn today that Ringo Starr is pro-Brexit. Paul McCartney's views on the matter, on the other hand, seem to be unclear.

[Rogin the Armchair fan]

I don't know why, but I always assume that football fans, and by extension players, are going to be working class, and probably socialist. Compared to, say Rugby Union types. Given almost all the top players of the 1980s were playing for clubs based in the most economically deprived areas of the country - even Chelsea was as rough as arseholes in that era - it's disappointing how many of them turn out to be fans of Thatcher.

[Duncan Gardner]

Steve Perryman to Hunter Davies (author of the Glory Game), early 1970s: "I'm Labour- aren't all the players?"

[Lucy Waterman]

Paul McCartney's views on the matter, on the other hand, seem to be unclear.

I think they're reasonably clear.

Despite repeated warnings
Of dangers up ahead
The captain won't be listening
To what's been said
It feels that there's a good chance
That we've been misled
And so the captain's planning
To steam ahead
What can we do, what can we do
What can we do to stop
This foolish plan going through
What can we do, what can we do
This man is bound to lose his ship and his crew
Despite repeated warnings
From those who are to know
Well, he's got his own agenda
And so we'll go

(snip)

So we went to the captain
And told him to turn round
But he laughs in our faces
Says that we are mistaken
So we gather around him
And everyone stood around him
Oh, but he should have listened
To the will of the people
It's the will of the people
It's the will of the people

He's said it's about the environment. Which is a pretty standard McCartney deflection - it clearly isn't.

I fucking love Paul McCartney.

[Sporting]

One thing you can say about Macca is that he's never been a tax exile. Well, not obviously so at least. And he's written a handful or more of pretty decent songs.

[Lucy Waterman]

I'm currently relistening to all the solo work (including Wings). There's a remarkably high hit rate as well as some bilge. The whole exercise may be deforming my sanity a bit though.

[Tubby Isaacs]

Have ordered A Conservative Coup by Alan Watkins, about the 1990 Tory leadership contest. Even though that was a lot about "Europe", very different times. They had Wets, and you had Tory backbenchers who'd get annoyed at benefits going up slower than inflation. You couldn't really call anybody in the current Tory party a wet. It's dries who can read a spreadsheet and outright clowns.

[Tubby Isaacs]

The Times reporting that the dries who can read a spreadsheet (Hammond, Gauke, Rudd, Liddington and G Clark) want a vote on May's deal then (assuming it loses) votes on the range of options.

[Walt Flanagans Dog]

Can't link but the latest Monkey Tennis drivel to be blurted out of May's mouth appears to be, right guys, the backdrop can't have a guaranteed expiry date otherwise it wouldn't be a backdrop, so why not right.... have a guaranteed start date for the new arrangement, whatever it is.

She's started on the sauce early tonight, she usually (claims to) waits til she's off duty for the night.

[Etienne]

Waddle tweeted an article from the Sun quoting Liam Fox approvingly a while back. I don't think he was joking.

[Snake Plissken]

Just come here to post about that. She really is incapable of answering a straight question or solving a problem directly. "I have not moved my chess piece on to a white square, I have merely relocated it to a non-black area."

[Snake Plissken]

This is most definitely not a shovel, it is a Manually Operated Terrain Moving Device.

[Evariste Euler Gauss]

Waddle refused to learn any French during his time playing for Monaco so I'm not hugely surprised to learn that he's a promoter of ignorant Brexit crap.

[Tubby Isaacs]

I was perplexed enough by the "dont expect a breakthrough at the summit". When's the breakthrough going to happen?

[Lang Spoon]

January 20th obvs... then all will be grand for a meaningful vote...